Here we go again: Planetouched and the DM vote

Thangorn · Post by **Thangorn** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:55 pm

fluff wrote:I'd like to know what the NWN2 DMs and builders think. There's not that many, can they just shout out?

I strongly support player choice, and I trust the ALFA player base because I trust the Admissions and PA departments. I am willing to undertake some of the work required to implement PT and would invite anyone who is passionate enough about playing/implementing PT to assist.

The thrust of my proposal will be to define and design a plane-touched beta test for the Moonsea. The test would include handling of ECL and static content including "safe" zones, conversations, skill implementation and scripted events to support plane-touched starting with tieflings. The real interest in assisting with the test will also be a good gauge on how many people are serious about wanting to play PT.

Further to my proposal, which I am going ahead and researching since I haven't yet received a response. Can anyone give me a precis of the article on Plane-touched of Faerun in Dragon #350?

Thanks

FanaticusIncendi · Post by **FanaticusIncendi** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:17 pm

Potential technical hurdles aside, I have, and always will, support player choice. I look forward to reading Thangorn's proposal.

Wynna · Post by **Wynna** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:14 pm

Thangorn wrote:
The thrust of my proposal will be to define and design a plane-touched beta test for the Moonsea. The test would include handling of ECL and static content including "safe" zones, conversations, skill implementation and scripted events to support plane-touched starting with tieflings. The real interest in assisting with the test will also be a good gauge on how many people are serious about wanting to play PT.

I would support this test. Such a test would reveal exactly what technical barriers there might be and at the same time get a start on surmounting them.

Further to my proposal, which I am going ahead and researching since I haven't yet received a response.

I'm guessing you sent that to Rusty since I don't have anything in my PMs. In chatting with Rusty this morning, he mentioned that he was going to be afk for the weekend.

In addition to the technical aspects, I'm still interested in seeing a proposal for the population aspects and ensuring that we aren't overrun at any one time by PT races.

Rotku · Post by **Rotku** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:23 pm

Surely the population aspects could be handled the same way we handle drow population? Simply a few DM Kills if they get too numerous.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:41 pm

ç i p h é r wrote:Yes.

I think PT offers unique RP opportunities for our membership. We profess to be a serious RP community. We screen applicants and monitor new players. This is not something our membership should be denied, technical challenges aside.

Roleplaying challenges?

The roleplaying aspect of PT is that they are have, way back in their distant ancestry, a planar being.

*ANY* character can RP that, without needing special powers or a head that is on fire.

psycho_leo · Post by **psycho_leo** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:44 pm

Mayhem wrote:
ç i p h é r wrote:Yes.

I think PT offers unique RP opportunities for our membership. We profess to be a serious RP community. We screen applicants and monitor new players. This is not something our membership should be denied, technical challenges aside.
Roleplaying challenges?

The roleplaying aspect of PT is that they are have, way back in their distant ancestry, a planar being.

*ANY* character can RP that, without needing special powers or a head that is on fire.

So I can say I'm playing an aasimar as long as I don't select the aasimar race on creation?

danielmn · Post by **danielmn** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:21 pm

As a follow up to this...

I am willing, through OAS2 and Admissions, to hold classes on planetouched for newcomers, to explain exactly what makes these races different/exeptional from the norm. Granted, I see the point of the arguement "they have ancestral blood way back when and therefore need not stand out..."
but at the same time, I think they should stand out...else why even come up with them to begin with? What were the intentions of those who thought up these races? Anywho, more than willing to let new players in on the uniqueness of these races. Will worry about other issues such as should a new member be allowed to play one off the bat when/if we get to that bridge.

Daniel M Noah

JaydeMoon · Post by **JaydeMoon** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:22 pm

psycho_leo wrote:
Mayhem wrote:
ç i p h é r wrote:Yes.

I think PT offers unique RP opportunities for our membership. We profess to be a serious RP community. We screen applicants and monitor new players. This is not something our membership should be denied, technical challenges aside.
Roleplaying challenges?

The roleplaying aspect of PT is that they are have, way back in their distant ancestry, a planar being.

*ANY* character can RP that, without needing special powers or a head that is on fire.
So I can say I'm playing an aasimar as long as I don't select the aasimar race on creation?

You didn't know Se'rie was a half-dragon fey-touched moondog? It's been quite the roleplaying challenge.

psycho_leo · Post by **psycho_leo** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:25 pm

JaydeMoon wrote:
psycho_leo wrote:
Mayhem wrote:
ç i p h é r wrote:Yes.

I think PT offers unique RP opportunities for our membership. We profess to be a serious RP community. We screen applicants and monitor new players. This is not something our membership should be denied, technical challenges aside.
Roleplaying challenges?

The roleplaying aspect of PT is that they are have, way back in their distant ancestry, a planar being.

*ANY* character can RP that, without needing special powers or a head that is on fire.
So I can say I'm playing an aasimar as long as I don't select the aasimar race on creation?
You didn't know Se'rie was a half-dragon fey-touched moondog? It's been quite the roleplaying challenge.

Freak! I'ma fetch my pitchfork!

Thangorn · Post by **Thangorn** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:26 am

I wrote:Souvarine: If you are still up for reform on Planetouched.. flick me a PM pls..

anyone else who wants to champion the issue.. same deal.

Wynna wrote: I'm guessing you sent that to Rusty since I don't have anything in my PMs. In chatting with Rusty this morning, he mentioned that he was going to be afk for the weekend.

In addition to the technical aspects, I'm still interested in seeing a proposal for the population aspects and ensuring that we aren't overrun at any one time by PT races.

Misunderstanding Wynna. I am going ahead and doing some research for my proposal since I haven't heard back from Team Plane-touched or any vocal proponents of plane-touched yet..

Once I am finished researching in the next couple of days, I'll make a start on it. I'll probably circulate a draft sometime toward the end of next week.

Mulu · Post by **Mulu** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:34 am

It's entirely possible that those most interested in planetouched simply left.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:16 am

True - after all, that it easier than helping to write NPC reaction scripts.

Thangorn · Post by **Thangorn** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:20 pm

I've started writing a proposal for a test of plane-touched implementation addressing previously highlighted administrative and community concerns using The Moonsea mod/server as a testing ground and tieflings as a test subject.

This would mainly be a test of scripted and DMed implementation and won't give us any information about more suck-it-and-see type issues like how many plane-touched per server we might run successfully, etc. but at least it might be a step forward.

If accepted, the test wouldnt be able to go ahead until at least Beta 2, I still need to get my mod on track for live and there still needs to be enough content to make it a useful test.

Alot of the scripts are things I wanted to implement anyway so nothing will really go to waste even if the test shows us that plane-touched are truly a dumb idea..

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:18 pm

Incidentally, do we have a decision on the whole LA thing?

Rotku · Post by **Rotku** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:51 pm

Ha, funny Mayhem. Good joke. Solving the whole LA thing...