Jackman would absolutely want to participate in the rescue. Marisha and Tragnar are close friends so rescuing her and his kin is very important. I hate to miss the rescue attempt, any chance delaying that for a week?Mick wrote:Honestly, if folks are true to their story and their RP, not every PC would be willing to participate or be included in every outing, even if it is a DMed event. It makes perfect IC sense that Ai would not return to the sewers so soon. If she has developed an attachment to her rescuers and she doesn't want them to go below either, then her staying behind with her tears of concern also makes IC sense.Magile wrote:Ai may or may not be in, depending on what PCs are there, for IC reasons of course. Let's hope it's not like an evening ago where everyone left Ai on the surface crying helplessly.
Additionally, I should also point out that I think abstaining from DMed events for IC reasons (and not b/c you have to log out to go to a movie or whatever) should be worth some RP XP. Of course, that is all up to the DMs!
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IC Toliv does not think the current crew is even up for the challenge, but, it's also not IC to just wait around while friends are being tortured, sold or eaten.
I'd wait Cleasor. But doubtful others will. Wouldn't feel right without Jackman.
I'd wait Cleasor. But doubtful others will. Wouldn't feel right without Jackman.
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I would presume that we are on "comic book time" here.
From Tragnar's perspective all of this post- Ai rescue and planning would be happening in a "short" (undefined) time frame of a few days perhaps to make plans.
The fact that RL forces it to be a week or two to find RP between involved PCs and to find common ground for scheduling shouldn't be seen as IC dithering.
(Unless of course other PCs are RPing that it's IC dithering ... then we'll have to find some agreement
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From Tragnar's perspective all of this post- Ai rescue and planning would be happening in a "short" (undefined) time frame of a few days perhaps to make plans.
The fact that RL forces it to be a week or two to find RP between involved PCs and to find common ground for scheduling shouldn't be seen as IC dithering.
(Unless of course other PCs are RPing that it's IC dithering ... then we'll have to find some agreement

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Comic book time works fine for me, but I do imagine some Players would like to escape to play again!
I'm happy to DM whatever you guys choose to do.
I'm happy to DM whatever you guys choose to do.
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Understood. Tragnar has been aggressively lobbying Kal who has IC expressed his reticence based on perceived lack of likelihood of success.ayergo wrote:Comic book time works fine for me, but I do imagine some Players would like to escape to play again!
I'm happy to DM whatever you guys choose to do.
I haven't talked to everyone, but given the fact that so many colleagues and friends have been killed down there, IC hesitation is a reasonable response.
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Sooo... if the rescue attempt is comic-book timed and delayed this weekend, what is the alternate plan then?
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btw -- I wasn't necessarily suggesting abandoning the rescue attempt this weekend. But I will be out of town next friday as well as the friday after that with friends and won't be in game.Rumple C wrote:Sooo... if the rescue attempt is comic-book timed and delayed this weekend, what is the alternate plan then?
(I'll leave to Ayergo and other players how we go forward with play on Friday ... I'm just giving a data point. )
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There is always going to be someone who cant make it. Last week Galadorn, this time Cleasor, next time Dergon.
If there are players waiting to play again with their pc's languishing, then my ooc personal preference would be to go bust them out.
If there are players waiting to play again with their pc's languishing, then my ooc personal preference would be to go bust them out.
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Eek no Tragnar for 2 weeks after this.
All things considered, waiting a RL month is way too long comic book time or not IM0.

All things considered, waiting a RL month is way too long comic book time or not IM0.

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It has ever been a fact of this particular gaming milieu that not every PC can make every session. Plots almost always drive forward without this PC or that. I am not sure this particular mission revolves around one particular PC (Tragnar the possible exception?). Contributions have been made by many along the way and will continue to be made moving forward.
I hate that Jack might miss this, just like I hate that Tragnar will miss the next big thing next weekend, and I will hate whenever I miss the next thing that I miss. Unfortunately, it is just the way this game goes sometimes.
I hate that Jack might miss this, just like I hate that Tragnar will miss the next big thing next weekend, and I will hate whenever I miss the next thing that I miss. Unfortunately, it is just the way this game goes sometimes.
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DMs can always play a PC if one is critical to the plot. Rushing this to another TPK (or forcing newbs with no connection to the prisoners to take mad risk) seems both unfun and meta. If there's something to do on DF (or Mt Sar, or ...) for the next few sessions, I'm fine with comic book time on a successful rescue led by the toons with an IC reason to mount one.
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Absolutely agree, and, i'm sure other PCs have a vested interest in the rescue beyond even the most important one, that of saving the slaves and comrades who were captured. Toliv certainly does have a non-revealed vested interest in the rescue beyond the above (which is his own business), as i'm sure other PCs possibly do too. My comment to go ahead this weekend was that I think it would be dangerous without Toliv AND Tragnar there at the same time, and if Tragnar is out for 3 weeks after this weekend, that just seems a very long time to leave the crew down there - Solonor only knows what horrible and terrible things are being done to Marisha... I shudder to think of it.Mick wrote:It has ever been a fact of this particular gaming milieu that not every PC can make every session. Plots almost always drive forward without this PC or that. I am not sure this particular mission revolves around one particular PC (Tragnar the possible exception?). Contributions have been made by many along the way and will continue to be made moving forward.
I hate that Jack might miss this, just like I hate that Tragnar will miss the next big thing next weekend, and I will hate whenever I miss the next thing that I miss. Unfortunately, it is just the way this game goes sometimes.
Just as an aside, and forever more, if I ever can't make a game, I don't mind at all, so please no one ever try to change plans for me. Just throwing that out there. I would enjoy every session of course, but in no way expect people to wait/change-plans for me. I just don't think i'm that important to any of it.


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I understand this point. But, even if KEY to any plot, I will make a very clear and final point with regards to the above:Fionn wrote:DMs can always play a PC if one is critical to the plot. Rushing this to another TPK (or forcing newbs with no connection to the prisoners to take mad risk) seems both unfun and meta. If there's something to do on DF (or Mt Sar, or ...) for the next few sessions, I'm fine with comic book time on a successful rescue led by the toons with an IC reason to mount one.
I do not want anyone, DM or otherwise, to ever play my characters for any reason....please.
I completely trust the DMs and even the other regular players to do that just fine (better?

I'm also super fine with going another route if the party at the time wants to, assuming i'm in the party which is also an IC situation that I do not presume is always the case!

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The only reason I'd want a session this weekend would be so, if a PC is rescued, they can actually play again.
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The best sort of ALFA argument, what to do in game!
I can DM whatever. I realize your leaders are out, can always just "punt" and I will throw something different at you.
Rescue is fine too.
I can DM whatever. I realize your leaders are out, can always just "punt" and I will throw something different at you.

There's a place I like to hide
A doorway that I run through in the night
Relax child, you were there
But only didn't realize and you were scared
It's a place where you will learn
To face your fears, retrace the years
And ride the whims of your mind
A doorway that I run through in the night
Relax child, you were there
But only didn't realize and you were scared
It's a place where you will learn
To face your fears, retrace the years
And ride the whims of your mind