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Russia knows, as does everyone, that we are so bogged down in the Middle East that we essentially have no military to respond with, other than the final option.
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From the Internets!!
I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic, different.” Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, it’s a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim. Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard Law School and you are unstable. Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7, 000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian. If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress,and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age-appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society. If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America’s. If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable. OK, much clearer now.
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Mulu wrote:From the Internets!!
I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic, different.” Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, it’s a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim. Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard Law School and you are unstable. Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7, 000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian. If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress,and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age-appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society. If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America’s. If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable. OK, much clearer now.
LOL!

Allow me to straighten up Mr. Confused.

1. Mr. McCain grew up where? Oh, that's right the Panama canal zone, i.e. Panama. Mr. Berry Insane Hussien Nobama isn't exotic, unless you consider McCain exotic, do you? I dunno. As for Palin invoking the "quintessential American story." ideals, I suppose that would have to do with the Alaskan ideal of freedom, frontiers(wo)man, pioneer, & self-reliance. That is quintessentially american because that ideal is ingrained in a lot of americans through the teaching of our history.

2. Barack attended a Muslim school when he was a kid, he has connections to 'radical' groups in the united states; i.e. Louis Farrakhan, "Nation of Islam." His church, Rev. Wright's absolutely insane "black liberation theology." the 'Weatherman' weather underground organization. That wishes to, and you can find this on wikipedia no less, "Their founding document called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[2] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and achieve a classless world: world communism."[3]" Of course this has to do with political convictions, not with kids. As far as voting for bush 90% of the time - No doubt that claim can be made for a lot of republicans. Completely moot. Though Mr. McCain was in washington before Bush and he has brought to the floor many, many, different bills.

3."Graduate from Harvard Law School and you are unstable. Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded." George W. Bush attended Harvard, would you consider him stable? No relation, but its funny some people believe education is more important over personal conviction and moral fortitude. More Well grounded than Mr. Obama? Completely!

4.Brilliant? No, cunning is a better word usage. No discounting "THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT!" of harvard law review. (if his color has anything to do with him attaining something prestigous as that. Democrats. . .man, do they even get it?) Heh. He spent 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people?! Well, Hello Mr Fancy Pants! Clearly Obama isn't qualified to be president, neither is Palin - But American history has shown that qualification doesn't always cut it. Some rise to the ocassion, others do not. Now as far as Palin being qualified to be the country's second Highest Ranking exocutive I say, "Oh well. At least she can field dress a moose and has worked with he hands unlike Obama who doesn't like to touch the little people. Quick someone get that asshole some wet naps and disinfectant before he gets the taint of rural america on him!"

5.If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within [Racist, aggressive, insane]fixed churches for 20 years!, you’re not a real Christian. [Yes, if you include black liberation HATE theology an aspect of it.] If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian. [wait what? You're talking about Palin's husband? Hmm. Unless Palin is a lesbian? I don't get the relation here but oh well, I'll attempt it.] Both Obama's wife and Mr. Obama himself attended Wright's church for 20 years - They themselves have been married 19 of those years. Hmm. [Nevermind, no I won't dignify it]

6. [Personal & aggressive Democratic-socialist ideology, cornerstone of modern american politics.] Families have to deal with real issues Demy, not everyone has a picture perfect relationship. abstiance does work, but it requires a lot of will power to bring into practice. KNOWING that humans are capable of such will power and don't need to act like they don't have a brain in their ever loving skull, it can work. Only through a bi-partisan commitment can we achieve sexual responsibility. This requires sex education in high school/middle school, practice of safe sex and personal responsibility i.e. abstiance. (in grade school I had it too but I don't remember a thing nor do I even recall the relevance of it thus it shouldn't be for grade shcoolers until they comprehend what they're seeing.) So, Mr. Confused, I agree with Palin & McCain. Oh, btw. Palin's father was a science teacher. So to say she is absolutely geared toward creationism is very misleading. A long with a lot of other things spread by blogs, the information is new, scattered and often incorrect.

7. [wife vs. Husband arguement = Moot. Neat though, that she did all those things. Good for her.]

Oh yes! Mr. Obama covers his refuse well! He is a Public Relations surgeon!!! Oh no he's not you say? Yes he is! Him and his Obamaniacs.

Obamawellian:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/0 ... s-e-m.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... 5137.story
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... ownshirts/
Foreign relations:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/21/ ... index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
Troop support:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/25/ ... index.html

Now on go, drift away from American standards for this socialist messianiac man. You hate us for him. You kneel for him. You give to him. You cried for him. You wanted him. He is yours to love. You keep him.

No, wonder Mr. Confused is confused. I would be too if I was indocrinated like that.

Sorry, Mulu, if I tend to side with christians from time to time, you see, their deity lacks a thing I like to call substance, unlike yours. . .

XOXO - Your enemy.

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HATEFACE wrote:1. Mr. McCain grew up where? Oh, that's right the Panama canal zone, i.e. Panama. Mr. Berry Insane Hussien Nobama isn't exotic, unless you consider McCain exotic, do you?
You prove the point even better! Why is Obama considered exotic for being from Hawaii? I suppose because conservatives are dumb.
HATEFACE wrote:As for Palin invoking the "quintessential American story." ideals, I suppose that would have to do with the Alaskan ideal of freedom, frontiers(wo)man, pioneer, & self-reliance.
Ain't nothing self-reliant about getting more federal money per capita than any other state.
HATEFACE wrote: As far as voting for bush 90% of the time - No doubt that claim can be made for a lot of republicans.
I'm sure they can. That's sort of the point, hence the "McSame" appellation.
HATEFACE wrote:George W. Bush attended Harvard
But not Harvard Law.
HATEFACE wrote:No relation, but its funny some people believe education is more important over personal conviction and moral fortitude.
Moral fortitude? They lie like rugs. The rest is too silly to comment on, something about abstinence requiring will power. Good luck with that. *shrugs*


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Mulu wrote:
HATEFACE wrote:1. Mr. McCain grew up where? Oh, that's right the Panama canal zone, i.e. Panama. Mr. Berry Insane Hussien Nobama isn't exotic, unless you consider McCain exotic, do you?
You prove the point even better! Why is Obama considered exotic for being from Hawaii? I suppose because conservatives are dumb.
HATEFACE wrote:As for Palin invoking the "quintessential American story." ideals, I suppose that would have to do with the Alaskan ideal of freedom, frontiers(wo)man, pioneer, & self-reliance.
Ain't nothing self-reliant about getting more federal money per capita than any other state.
HATEFACE wrote: As far as voting for bush 90% of the time - No doubt that claim can be made for a lot of republicans.
I'm sure they can. That's sort of the point, hence the "McSame" appellation.
HATEFACE wrote:George W. Bush attended Harvard
But not Harvard Law.
HATEFACE wrote:No relation, but its funny some people believe education is more important over personal conviction and moral fortitude.
Moral fortitude? They lie like rugs. The rest is too silly to comment on, something about abstinence requiring will power. Good luck with that. *shrugs*
1. Never heard of Obama being called 'exotic' by republicans, certainly we certainly have called him "hussien." and far worse, seeing as he's the liberal boot scum that moderate democrat scum would scrape off. Travesty! Only far left liberals like yourself associate obama with exotic in an attempt to romanticize him no doubt. SO uh, I think you're the dumb one here in attempt to play it off into any legitimate conservative camp. Guess you didn't understand what I was saying.

2. Weak argument attempting to play off her personality via the federal contributions to the state itself. Alaska is a oil rich state. We need oil even if we went green. She relies upon herself she's a good person and you don't like that.

3. Republicans tend to side with republicans and democrats tend to side with democrats. You don't prove a point here except a vague attempt to make McCain appear like he IS bush but you wouldn't be able to do that without some major surgery and erasing voting records.

4. He attended Harvard.

5. uhuh. Moral fortutide, You now? "They lie like rugs," this of course seems to imply that democrats do not and that is rather silly when you observe the links between card carrying democrats, CEO democrats and the recent economic troubles. - I guess democrats were doing more than filibustering to ensure that they come out on top despite the economic ruin of poor lil tax payers like myself. Moral fortutide indeed. It's politics man, and because in this country I still (and I hope remains that way.) get to choose I'm voting McCain/Palin the bi-partisan vote. I know you read it but decided not to comment. You should know that a technique catholic priests use is credible but requires will power. - That's what I was refering to, though it doesn't help completely. A combination should work for kids.

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HATEFACE wrote:You should know that a technique catholic priests use is credible but requires will power. - That's what I was refering to, though it doesn't help completely. A combination should work for kids.
Considering the number of catholic priests named in pedophile investigations around the world in the last 5 years, youll forgive me for not giving said 'technique' the credibility you think it deserves.
No, wonder Mr. Confused is confused. I would be too if I was indocrinated like that.
Seeing as you violently spew bile at anybody with differing political opinions to yourself and the fact you staunchly support and defend the republican party despite doing their very best to destroy your countries economy and standing on the world stage in the last 8 years, id throw it out there there your just as indoctrinated as you believe Mr. Confused is.
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CBS wrote:Palin's firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan last July, allegedly after pressure by her, her husband and staff members on Monegan to fire her ex-brother-in-law was ignored, is at the center of the investigation (known as Troopergate) into whether Palin abused her power.

Palin originally agreed to participate in the investigation, authorized in July by the Republican-controlled legislature. She told Alaskans, "Hold me accountable." Once named to the McCain ticket, however, Palin backpedaled. She has since refused to testify.

Palin has maintained that she fired Monegan not over the status of Trooper Mike Wooten, but over budget disagreements - specifically a trip Monegan planned to Washington which she said was unauthorized.

Earlier this week the McCain campaign released a series of e-mails detailing the frustration several Palin administration officials experienced in dealing with Monegan. The "last straw," the campaign said, was a trip Monegan planned in July to seek federal money for investigating and prosecuting sexual assault cases.

Palin, saying she did not authorize the expenses for the travel, cited that trip as a primary example of the insubordination that led to Monegan's firing.

However, Palin's chief of staff did authorize the travel to Washington.

A travel authorization document signed by Palin's Chief of Staff Mike Nizich on June 18 approved Monegan's trip to Washington for the purpose of meeting Sen. Lisa Murkowski.
So much for their pretextual reasons.
CBS wrote:The revelation came on the same day that several individuals subpoenaed to testify in Troopergate refused to appear as ordered.

Those who refused to answer their subpoenas (including Todd Palin, the Governor's husband; Randy Ruaro, the governor's deputy chief of staff; and aide Ivy Frye) will be referred to the full Senate for contempt, said Sen. Hollis French, who is heading the investigation.
A classic delay tactic, and given that the "full state Senate" is Republican controlled, I suspect they'll chew over what to do for the next couple of months, then do nothing. Looks like it's up to the media to prosecute this case. Fortunately they are very willing. :twisted:
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yeah, since 98% of the media are liberal biased noobs. She isnt participating because the Dems have turned it into a witch hunt and are making the investigation a personal political vendetta against her instead of letting her state just carry out the inquiry. I would stall too just to piss the dems off.
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Lusipher wrote:yeah, since 98% of the media are liberal biased noobs.
Well that's one way to justify only getting your news from Fox....
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Not just Fox. I also goto CNN these days and many websites. You can say that horseshit as much as you want, but you know im right. Main stream media is left/liberal. Since you live in that world its alright for you, though.

Your just too stupid to wake up and look around.
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Your argument would be better served by posting links and excerpts to back up your argument, instead of just calling people stupid ;)

Edit: Im also sitting here scratching my head. I thought CNN and your beloved Fox were part of the "mainstream" media. Doesn't that make your argument moot since its your primary source of news?
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National mainstream media actually ends up being Center - Right, simply by virtue of corporate ownership. Local media tends to be biased according to the bias of their customers, which is good business sense. Then there are the national biased media, Fox obviously and admittedly MSNBC which has tried to capture the left leaning audience but still has conservatives like Scarborough as well, making it far more "fair and balanced" than Fox.
Lusipher wrote: She isnt participating because the Dems have turned it into a witch hunt and are making the investigation a personal political vendetta against her instead of letting her state just carry out the inquiry.
Actually the investigation was instigated by the state Republicans, and they are, or rather were, the ones primarily engaged in the investigation as well. They tried to stop the investigation when it stopped being just about Palin and started to affect the national ticket, for obvious partisan reasons. Now it's in limbo, or rather it's up to the media now, where it will remain until the election is over.
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The mainstream media is entirely owned by a handful of corporations; Time Warner, News Corp, General Electric. Fox is hard right and MSNBC has a left tendency, but they're all ultimately serving as platforms for transnational corporations. That's why they're not reliable. How often is MSNBC going to do a hard-hitting exposé on GE?
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As an interesting aside, it was the liberal blog The Huffington Post that originally broke the story on Obama calling rural Americans "bitter." Lefty blogs do real journalism, righty blogs just do opinion commentary, as a general rule, a gap that has not gone unnoticed by the GOP.
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Then there are the national biased media, Fox obviously and admittedly MSNBC which has tried to capture the left leaning audience but still has conservatives like Scarborough as well, making it far more "fair and balanced" than Fox.
Fox has Alan Combs (dem). Greta Van Sestren isnt a republican and Bill O reilly is independent.
Lefty blogs do real journalism, righty blogs just do opinion commentary, as a general rule, a gap that has not gone unnoticed by the GOP.
This is just plain false. I've seen more lies, opinions, and just plain bullshit spewed on liberal sites. Whats funny is we see the liberals quoting these sites like their solid gold hard facts and their not.

Dude, get your head out of the clouds. :roll:
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