Solar variation ruled out in global warming

fluffmonster · Post by **fluffmonster** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:48 pm

Grand Fromage wrote: Playing too much SimCity 2000. The proof of concept beams actually aren't particularly dangerous, you can stick your hand in the beam without incident. The principle's similar to Nikola Tesla's wireless power distribution system. Microwaves are not any more automatically evil than ZOMG ATOMS! It's just a light frequency. :p

Just an EM frequency which water molecules tend to have a particular affinity for. This is when concentrated microwaves become dangerous. Its what makes microwave ovens work.

Not all photons are created equal.

Grand Fromage · Post by **Grand Fromage** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:25 am

fluffmonster wrote:Just an EM frequency which water molecules tend to have a particular affinity for. This is when concentrated microwaves become dangerous. Its what makes microwave ovens work.

Not all photons are created equal.

Right, but it's not going to vaporize half a city in the minute it's off track. Plus the beam is very low powered. I wish I still had the article, but it was pretty clear it's not dangerous.

And the spill was just a liter of heavy water? Lulz. That shit forms naturally, it's in the water everywhere, and such a small amount isn't toxic at all. OMIGOD ATOMZ OVERREACTION TIME!!1

Post by **ayergo** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:23 pm

Patrick Moore, one of the founders of Greenpeace about persuing nuclear energy:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01209.html

He says it better than i.

Mulu · Post by **Mulu** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:15 am

Alright, alright, I'm pro-nuclear. Sheesh. Just do me a favor and build them all in Texas.

Post by **paazin** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:26 am

Grand Fromage wrote:
paazin wrote:
Grand Fromage wrote:Super-efficient solar arrays in orbit sending down power by microwave beams would be pretty awesome though.
If they don't miss and melt down half a city
Playing too much SimCity 2000. The proof of concept beams actually aren't particularly dangerous, you can stick your hand in the beam without incident. The principle's similar to Nikola Tesla's wireless power distribution system. Microwaves are not any more automatically evil than ZOMG ATOMS! It's just a light frequency. :p

Atoms are evil, weirdo. You'd know that if you weren't too busy poisoning our air and polluting our oceans you corporate apologist.

Post by **paazin** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:28 am

Mulu wrote:Alright, alright, I'm pro-nuclear. Sheesh. Just do me a favor and build them all in Texas.

Why not just build them in that vast cavernous space between Dubya's ears? We're not doing anything productive with it at the moment, anyway

Grand Fromage · Post by **Grand Fromage** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:08 am

Mulu wrote:Alright, alright, I'm pro-nuclear. Sheesh. Just do me a favor and build them all in Texas.

Putting them in areas no one would miss is the trick. The two that my town runs on are in Cincinnati.

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:45 pm

I'd say Jersey...but who knows what sort of mutants a nuclear spill would cause when combined with all the other sludge.

Misty · Post by **Misty** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:53 pm

Mulu wrote:Alright, alright, I'm pro-nuclear. Sheesh. Just do me a favor and build them all in Texas.

go to hell

Mizbiz · Post by **Mizbiz** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:20 pm

I lived within 15 miles of a nuke plant for four years. I didn't lose any sleep in all that time, and felt alot better about that then some nasty belching coal plant.

As for my cancer, my mother was quick to blame the plant, but my doctor told her it could just has easily been 30 years of flourecent lights.

My great embarassment about my good ol' hometown of Detroit is the auto industry. They are fighting tooth and nail right now the proposed fuel economy standards. Short sighted asshats.

Post by **ayergo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:09 pm

For those interested in Solar energy, in 2005 the largest grant ever was given by the government to try and double the efficiency of panels. Now, we would still have to get production capability worked out (faster and cheaper), but we're getting there!

http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2006/nov/solar110205.html

Yay fed science grants!

Nekulor · Post by **Nekulor** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:25 pm

Yea. Try getting a research grant from NIH. Its a damn rat race. This administration has hurt the scientific community, funding wise for Biological research. They only want us when there's a nasty new virus (like SARs) or when our guys are going into a war zone and need quick and cheap vaccinations.

Post by **paazin** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:57 am

Misty Eyes wrote:
Mulu wrote:Alright, alright, I'm pro-nuclear. Sheesh. Just do me a favor and build them all in Texas.
go to hell

Face it Misty, texas sucks

You should move to somewhere nice, like the northeast

Stormseeker · Post by **Stormseeker** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:26 pm

I've worked up in that eastern city beltway and all i have to say is it sucks. Public restrooms are rare, people are rude and the food is bland. Down in the south the restrooms are everywhere, people still wave at you when you meet them on the highway in vehichles, and the food is nice and spicey.

Mulu · Post by **Mulu** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:18 pm

California ftw!