Heh, now you're starting to sound like Danubusmxlm wrote:Why do you hate America?Heh, because I already linked to it once on this very page
That kind of mental enigma tempts me to relax with a glass of Pinot and watch Taxi Driver this weekendGrand Fromage wrote:Hey now, leave the NRA out of it.MorbidKate wrote:It's what happens when the The O'Reilly Factor becomes the sole source of "information" for bible-thumping, card carrying NRA Republicans.
I love the confused look people get when they see my NRA membership right next to my ACLU one.
Yup! NRA=National Rifle AssociationRotku wrote:Okay. ACLU, wikipedia tells me, stands for American Civil Liberties Union, but what about NRA? Is that the National Rifle Association?
Oh I strongly suggest you copy that last post and start a whole new thread on it because that my friend is a 10 pager if I ever saw oneNekulor wrote:Actually, the ACLU is really the American Communist Liberation Union. They have become more of a mouthpiece of national socialism then a representative of individual rights.They used to be a great force in this country, protecting the rights of those who need them protected, like Blacks in the 60's and 70's. However, in recent years they've been hijacked by nutty leftists here and they continue to misrepresent their membership through things like:
1) Current crusade to remove ALL religious symbols from military burial sites and eventually all public cemeteries. No pun intended, but over my dead body will they get this!
2) Advocating the allowance of all rights (like, legally living here) to illegal immigrants. These people should be sent home, not given a green card.
3) God. They hate god (this may be hyperbole). However, their crusade to remove any instance of god from any public place because an oversensitive atheist doesn't like god is just silly. We can't run a society on the wants of the majority. This is a democracy, the majority rules. If you don't like that, either deal with it, work to gain support of the masses for your movement, or move. We don't have to cater to those who are in the minority, and currently roughly 86% of Americans are religious, and 85% of those are Christians.
However, I must commend them for the fight against the current eminant domain policy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00643.htmlKANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A Kansas church group that protests at military funerals nationwide filed suit in federal court, saying a Missouri law banning such picketing infringes on religious freedom and free speech.
The American Civil Liberties Union filed the lawsuit Friday in the U.S. District Court in Jefferson City, Mo., on behalf of the fundamentalist Westboro Baptist Church, which has outraged mourning communities by picketing service members' funerals with signs condemning homosexuality.
http://www.aclu.org/studentsrights/expr ... 40511.htmlDETROIT - The American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan today announced an out-of-court settlement between the Utica Community School District and a local student over the censorship of her 2001 yearbook entry. The student's entry had been deleted from the yearbook because it contained a passage from the Bible.
"While it is true that the Constitution forbids public schools to promote religion, schools must be careful not to suppress the private religious expression of students," said ACLU of Michigan Legal Director Michael J. Steinberg, who represented the student. "In this case, a high school purported to create an open forum for student expression, yet censored a student's speech because it was religious in nature."
http://www.aclu.org/religion/discrim/16 ... 40603.htmlRICHMOND, VA - Under pressure from the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia, Falmouth Waterside Park Manager Brian Robinson has agreed not to prohibit baptisms in Stafford County, the ACLU announced today.
Robinson also told the ACLU that the Fredericksburg-Stafford Park Authority, which controls access to the public park, expects to issue written policies making it clear that religious groups have the same right to use the park as all other groups.
http://www.aclu.org/religion/frb/16347prs20040811.htmlLINCOLN --The American Civil Liberties Union of Nebraska today announced that it would defend a Presbyterian church from a forced eviction by the city.
"There's no reason for the city to force the Church of the Awesome God from its home, and the city is violating both the First Amendment and federal law in doing so," said Tim Butz, Executive Director of the ACLU of Nebraska.
http://www.aclu.org/studentsrights/expr ... 30221.htmlNORTHAMPTON, MA -- The American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts today asked a federal district court in Springfield to protect the First Amendment rights of high school students who were disciplined by school officials for distributing candy canes with religious messages just before Christmas.
"Students have a right to communicate ideas, religious or otherwise, to other students during their free time, before or after class, in the cafeteria, or elsewhere," said ACLU cooperating attorney Jeffrey Pyle, the main author of a friend-of-the-court brief submitted in the case.
http://www.aclu.org/religion/frb/16040prs20020417.htmlRICHMOND, VA--A federal judge has struck down a provision of the Virginia Constitution that bans religious organizations from incorporating, in a challenge filed by the Rev. Jerry Falwell and joined by the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia, the group announced today.
"The judge applied well established constitutional principles to reach the conclusion that Virginia's archaic ban on church incorporation cannot pass constitutional muster," said Rebecca Glenberg, Legal Director of the ACLU of Virginia.
http://www.aclu.org/freespeech/gen/1092 ... 20108.htmlBOSTON--The American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts and a local attorney today filed a First Amendment lawsuit against the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority (MBTA) for removing subway advertisements promoting the views of a local church and refusing to sell additional advertising space to the church.
One of the controversial ads, paid for by The Church of the Good News, said that early Christians did not celebrate Christmas or "believe in lies about Santa Claus, flying reindeer, elves and drunken parties." A second ad, which was rejected by the transit authority and never posted, said, "There is only one true religion. All the rest are false."
Seriously, read a book. I don't know where you right wingers get your grossly false misinformation, though I have my suspicions, but suffice to say you are even more wrong about this topic than you were about torture.Nekulor wrote:Actually, the ACLU is really the American Communist Liberation Union. They have become more of a mouthpiece of national socialism then a... *rants on in total blissful ignorance*
I think we need to start prosecuting propaganda artists if this country is ever going to become a functional democracy. How can people vote well with that much misinformation in their heads?Handy wrote:Read a Book!
Civil libertarian and former ACLU member Nat Hentoff has criticized the ACLU for promoting affirmative action and for supporting speech codes on college campuses and in the workplace.[50] Also, the organization's support for affirmative action has been criticized as disregarding the civil rights of those who are discriminated against whether in employment or school admissions,[citation needed] and others have criticized the ACLU more generally for preferring to focus on civil rights concerns at the expense of civil liberties.[51]
As a member of the NRA, that should make you wary GF.Although the ACLU categorically embraces a States' Right Model interpretation of the Second Amendment, which only recognizes a state's right to possess firearms, the organization officially declares itself "neutral" on the issue of gun control, pointing to previous Supreme Court decisions such as United States v. Miller to argue that the Second Amendment applies to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, and that "except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of firearms by individuals is not constitutionally protected."[52]
Regarding gun control laws, the official policy of the national ACLU argues that the Second Amendment is "intended mainly to protect the right of the states to maintain militias to assure their own freedom and security against the central government" and is not intended to "confer an unlimited right upon individuals to own guns or other weapons." Furthermore, the ACLU states "The national ACLU is neutral on the issue of gun control. We believe that the Constitution contains no barriers to reasonable regulations of gun ownership."
The ACLU of Washington State and the Second Amendment Foundation jointly filed a lawsuit[53] in November 2006 against the North Central Regional Library District (NCRL) in Washington State for its policy of refusing to disable restrictions upon an adult patron's request. Library patrons attempting to access gun web sites such as Women & Guns were blocked, and the library refused to remove the blocks.
The ACLU's stance on spam is considered controversial by a broad cross-section of political points of view. In 2000, Marvin Johnson, a legislative counsel for the ACLU, stated that proposed anti-spam legislation infringed on free speech by denying anonymity and by forcing spam to be labeled as such: "Standardized labeling is compelled speech." He also stated, "It's relatively simple to click and delete."[54]
This analysis is rejected by many Internet service providers and system administrators as failing to address the uninvited costs of spam, which are borne by the owners of the mail servers that have to filter or handle it.[55] One legal comparison used in criticizing the ACLU's position is to compare spam to junk fax, which is illegal because of the cost of fax paper and other limited resources on the part of the recipient.[56] Spamming not only imposes costs on the recipient, but is most often sent through stolen computer resources, such as by use of computer viruses to send spam through home computers.
This debate found the ACLU joining with the Direct Marketing Association and the Center for Democracy and Technology in criticizing a bipartisan bill in the House of Representatives in 2000; already by 1997 the ACLU had taken a strong position that nearly all spam legislation was improper,[57] although it has supported "opt-out" requirements in some cases. The ACLU opposed the 2003 CAN-SPAM act[58] suggesting that it could have a chilling effect on speech in cyberspace.
However, as of 2006, twice the death row inmates were whites as all minorities combined.The ACLU opposes the use of Capital punishment, calling it "the ultimate denial of civil liberties."[60] The ACLU claims that the death penalty is unfairly applied to racial minorities and the poor, and considers it "cruel and unusual" punishment.[9]
