Grey Pilgrim wrote:I've been on IRC since it was first invented by alexander graham bell in 1875.
I've booted countless antisocial scallywags in my time and in 1996 I recieved the lifetime achievment award from the Society for Handsome Internet Telecommunicators after dishing out my one millionth offical permanent banning.
Moreover, I have had several witty banning messages published in Internet Moderator Quarterly and am regularly booked as an after-dinner speaker at IRC conventions, where my many hilarious anecdotes about n00bs asking how to change their nickname always go down a storm.
Im not saying any of this to boast or be arrogant, just to demonstrate my knowledge and authority in this field and provide the context for my response to this thread's central question:
OMFG!!! lololLOLO!! l1gh5en uP!!! wTf 1s t3h pr0bl3m w1v u say fsck 4n 8008135 1n t3h ch45?????????!!!!!!111 wTf?????? we 41nt m0r0ns or r3tard5!!!!lllololololol!!!
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"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." -- Richard Dawkins
Lafter wrote:I Swear like a sailor in RL ... but I really dont want to hear/read burt/{Insert other njub here} cussing with every other word an saying some sick crap in chat.
Was the chat room so terrible, offensive and shameful before the lead election that we needed a huge crackdown so that a toddler wont read anything offensive?
IIRC before that the people that got kicked and/or banned were a) saying stuff like racial slurs, sexually abusive comments or constant profanity, or b) people acting like downright dickheads.
Why, all of a sudden after the lead election, are we facing such heavy handed moderation in the communitys chat room, to the point that spelling ass that way gets you kicked and warned?
A simple watch the langugage is fine, no need to go over the top with it all. We all make mistakes or copy and paste things without going through them with a fine tooth combe, example being a link I posted the other day had the word fsck in it.
Hardly ban material is it.
I also think whatever is applyed in chat should be on the forums and in game.
Its strange being able to insult someone however you want IC, repeat said words on here then get a ban for copying it into chat.
We going to be banned for "Bastard Swords" as well?
For those that keep asking, chat has indeed been that bad for some time now. Part of the problem is moderation. Language that is absolutely forbidden was repeatedly used when the moderators (those that actually bother) were not watching. After warning people repeatedly, I got PMs with logs showing that other mods were allowing this behavior to continue when I wasn't online. I really can't be in chat 24 hours a day to catch the worst of it...and god help me I wouldn't want to be either.
Several of the worst offenders have pushed the limit to the breaking point. The rules lawyers insist that unless things are strictly and individually forbidden and posted then the moderators in all fairness cannot do anything. The more we tried to give simple reminders, the harder they pushed us. The spew I got in PMs from simply telling someone to watch their language is unbelievable.
We were told repeatedly that certain things were not specificly stated in the rules, so the rules were tightened. We got pushed even more and the hammer dropped on everybody. I personally would lay the blame on those that brought the change about but I know that Bear and I will remain the targets. Such is the Alfa way.
Grey Pilgrim wrote:Maybe we should create a list of disgusting and offensive words that shoudnt be used in chat under any circumstances? I'll start it off:
"Huggle"
*smoogles the bejeezus outta [insert nick here]*
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zicada wrote:On the internet, we have something called free speech.
Before everyone goes off and starts quoting Amendments ...
"Free speech" means the government can't censor what you say.
Corporations/charity groups/the Pope/ALFA can censor to their hearts' content, and legally, there's pretty much jack-all you can do about it.
*Steps aside* You may continue.
Free speech means you can set up your own message board or chat room and say what ever you want, not that you can say whatever you want in someone elses.
Castano wrote:are we gonna ban the use of OMFG? we really should it is religiously offensive and has a swear word in the acronym.
And here I thought omfg was the sound you make when something literally or illiterally hit you hard in the stomach, like a surprise.
<GlandFromage> I like dipping my toes in yoghurt and paint horses on the windows.
<ballanger> omfg
<broom[dong]> Didn't you know ball? roffle
*** Miyagile has quit (Quit: Big in Japan)
(Disclaimer: All characters in the above example are purely fictional and any similarities with actual persons are coincidential.)
Cast_No_Shadow wrote:Free speech means you can set up your own message board or chat room and say what ever you want, not that you can say whatever you want in someone elses.
Exactly.
The spawns only have to fight once. PCs don't have that luxury.-Twisted
Hyperbolic wrote:The hard and fast rules would be- 1.) No sexual talk. No words like c*nt, tw*t, etc. 2.) No swearing just to swear, sentences like "MFing son of a MFing b*tch" (just explicitly spelled out) is too much. 3.) No swearing aimed at people in the community, whatsoever. 4.) No racist/sexist/etc. statements/jokes of any kind.
These were basicly the chat rules before the issue was forced.
