Retraining

[talonbreak]

Hope this isnt a dead horse but do we allow in game effects to allow a retrain?

I know there is a psionic power and the PHB II also has a write up for it.

I would be happy to pay even higher XP costs than the power says. 50 XP a level is nothing really...

I dont claim a bug or anything; I just want to exchange a crafting feat for the leadership feat and monkey with some skill choices like the power allows.

I mean shoot if it isnt allowed, I would take a hit from the XP loss stick to get back to the level I want to change.

Thanks for any comment!

[Castano]

To my knowledge ALFA has never allowed re-leveling or retraining a skill per any ruleset. We have allowed corrections of mistakes upon rolling a PC or when we've removed a feat or skill or added one to ALFA depending on the facts, but those are entirely OOC changes. We'd have to take up this request in the DM forums.

Lastly, you link does not work so I was not able to review the rule you linked. Thanks.

[HEEGZ]

I mean shoot if it isnt allowed, I would take a hit from the XP loss stick to get back to the level I want to change.

Thanks for any comment!

I believe an idea has been floated in the past about allowing players to have XP deducted from their PC. I'm not sure if there is any precedent for this or not.

[talonbreak]

its called psychic reformation

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/power ... mation.htm

If its a big deal no worries.

[Castano]

yeah but we have no PCs capable of Psionics....right?

[boombrakh]

yeah but we have no PCs capable of Psionics....right?

Doesn't mean there are no NPCs with Psionics. You know.. story-wise.

[talonbreak]

Ya that is what I was hopping for but if ALFA doesn't support this, I am OK.

[Rumple C]

(Not to mention that the leadership feat can be a major time-sink and work for dm's)

[Swift]

(Not to mention that the leadership feat can be a major time-sink and work for dm's)

((and is not treated the same across the project as a whole))

[kid]

Leadership is best to be avoided anyways.
It's a pain.

However If a DM wants to play Sim-Castle with you, you can do it without the feat. And if a DM isn't willing the feat won't do you any good.

So firstly i'd check if I have DM support. If you've a DM that supports this you can both agree that you will take the leadership feat at the next available level (9, 12, whatever) and start RPing towards it now. If you don't have DM support it's really pointless. Don't think You need rebuilding for it.

[talonbreak]

I was told I needed the feat if I wanted to do big things by a DM.



I will simply wait until next level.

[Galadorn]

Take leadership for the RP alone. Who needs mechanics (or even DM run NPC "Cohorts") to go along with it. if you got it, others will honor it in good ol'RP fashion. Cheers.

[Brokenbone]

That Psychic Reformation thing looks cool. But it also looks quite unbalanced. Get a 7th level psion who agrees to blow 50xp with you (I guess 25xp each?) and an IC choice for charging gold I suppose like any NPC caster, and you get to essentially de-level and re-level, in terms of skills, feats, and even other powers like maybe spontaneous spells you gained as a bard / sorcerer or whatever? That's amazing. Give me that, I will delevel 10 times for 250xp and fix a lot of bad ideas along the way. A bargain even at 10x the price I'd say. Get killed lose thousands or become a whole new guy and spend chump change in terms of XP...

Again, while I guess "maybe there are roving psion hirelings around Faerun", I think they're probably best avoided in ALFA except for maybe as the odd villain or odd NPC who isn't just there as a reward-distributor doing weird psychic things for PCs. Yes, I've been in a plot where a psionic dude was used as an interrogator vs. a BBEG, we had to rescue such psionic dude from a bunch of mind-flayers in plots of weeks' prior, but it was all really just plot-stuff not really as "ah ha and while you're here I'd like to hire you for the following makeover!"

It's funny though, I think that while we've codified ability score point adds as "Book of (insert Stat)" pricing in the 27K ballpark, with the high unlikeliness of ever finding folks willing to blow wish-level magic on PCs, I'd suspect we may want to steer clear of fundamental rebuilds, even if PnP has processes custom made to support that, like this psionic stuff. That may be something more of a DMA & PA call about what's "fair" for the game for folks to be able to quest for ("I want to rescue psionicists from mind flayers too so they owe me one!"), or simply ask for ("I travel to WD with a big sack of gold and advertise for a psionicist, please adjust my PC").

[Adanu]

I'm the DM in question. Talonbreak wants Samuel to start up a sort of base camp in my campaign, and I told him if he wants to run a small army of his own, he needs the feat to do it well. It's the difference between leading a small squad, and leading a a platoon.

As it is, I'm rethinking it and probably going to rule something else that I will discuss with Talonbreak.

[kid]

Just agree that it's the next feat he takes if you think he needs the feat. sounds fair.
Up to you ofc.