Everything you ever wanted to know about Sarah Palin

Vaelahr · Post by **Vaelahr** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:52 am

ç i p h é r wrote:I'll see your Memoirs of a HausFrau, and raise you this:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... mccai.html

'Nuff said.

And well said.

Palin crushes the farce of modern feminism. NOW's statement on Palin says she's against womens' rights. Apparently, according to them, the only right women have is to kill their unborn children. Sounds pretty sexist to me. With all of the questioning she's gotten about whether she could care for her new baby and be VP at the same time, you'd think that this were the 1950's again. Proving that once again, the left doesn't believe in the things they champion unless you agree totally with them. If you don't tow party line, you really don't deserve the rights they supposedly stand for.

And if Palin had a D behind her name, I wonder if we'd even know her kids' names. I barely know anything at all about Obama's girls except that if they made a mistake of having sex, he doesn't want them "punished with a baby".

Groups like the National Organization for Women only care about abortion. They're not truly about women, they're about worldview....and it better be liberal. Palin is for things that would benefit everyone, including women, regardless of worldview. When she supports plans that would lower the cost of fuel, it means it costs the soccer mom less to drive the kids to practice. When she supports tax cuts or school choice, she gives moms options to maybe be able to afford better schools for their kids. Lower taxes mean the working single mother may have more money for day care.

Sarah Palin, like many who don't believe in abortion, doesn't feel that complete and utter reproductive equality between men and women is worth the lives of the unborn. That's what the abortion issue is to organizations like NOW. It's about being equal to men in every way including reproductively speaking. A woman's particular biology is an inconvenient hurdle in the quest for absolute and total equality to men and they're convinced something must be done to remove that hurdle. After all, the man can have a one night stand and move on with nary a thought, while the woman is saddled with an unwanted pregnancy. This cannot stand and if the baby needs to die to protect the woman from this "punishment" then so be it.

Mulu · Post by **Mulu** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:04 am

Lusipher wrote:One thing kids dont have anymore are role models to look up too. You have all these kids today looking up to rap stars and sports figures who flaunt their sexuality.

Yeah, all those celebrities flaunting their sexuality, it's absolutely disgusting....

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Val wrote:Palin is for things that would benefit everyone

I'm not sure how abusing power, starting more wars, teaching Creationism in schools, criminalizing abortion and maintaining tax cuts to the wealthy really benefit "everyone."

Lusipher · Post by **Lusipher** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:06 am

You gotta be kidding, Mulu?

Kest · Post by **Kest** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:06 am

Vaelahr wrote:Sounds pretty sexist to me.

"VPILF" - Vaelahr

Swift · Post by **Swift** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:56 am

Lusipher wrote:One thing kids dont have anymore are role models to look up too. You have all these kids today looking up to rap stars and sports figures who flaunt their sexuality.

Well maybe if more parents acted like role models instead of lazy fucks who expect the government to raise their children, this wouldn't be an issue.

The kids who do want to stay virgins till their married are made fun of because of their promises. Its a pretty stupid world we live in now.

They get laughed at because the idea of saving yourself for marriage is:

a) Horribly, horribly old, and
b) Because it is entirely a religious thing, and organized religion as a whole is an utter joke.

Your essentially saying that the world is stupid because they don't all share your beliefs, which is itself a horrible stupid stance to take, as it is even more intolerant.

Veilan · Post by **Veilan** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:14 am

Swift wrote:
The kids who do want to stay virgins till their married are made fun of because of their promises. Its a pretty stupid world we live in now.
They get laughed at because the idea of saving yourself for marriage is:

a) Horribly, horribly old, and
b) Because it is entirely a religious thing, and organized religion as a whole is an utter joke.

Your essentially saying that the world is stupid because they don't all share your beliefs, which is itself a horrible stupid stance to take, as it is even more intolerant.

No, he's not saying that. He's saying that if someone chooses to live by that conviction, they get ridiculed. That should not be the case in a society claiming it is tolerant, no matter how that conviction was inspired. I'm not saying staying virgin til you marry is a great way and there are no others and everyone doing it different is a sinner going to burn in hell, but mocking people because of it is totally misplaced. That's their choice, respect it.

Swift · Post by **Swift** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:55 am

Veilan wrote:That's their choice, respect it.

The same respect he gives others for saying 'its a stupid world' because some believe no sex before marriage is bizarre?

Veilan · Post by **Veilan** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:30 am

Swift wrote:
Veilan wrote:That's their choice, respect it.
The same respect he gives others for saying 'its a stupid world' because some believe no sex before marriage is bizarre?

Oh, right, eye for an eye eh? How very old testament of you.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:48 am

That's their choice, respect it.

How very nonsensical of you. You can respect someone's right to make a choice, while mocking the A-grade bullshit behind that choice.

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Veilan · Post by **Veilan** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:04 am

Yes, you can mock the bs, but making fun of people for a choice, that they may even be innocent in - who knows what education and background imprinted it in them, is just disrespectful.

Noone's telling you to agree with them, and we all know (well, those that "believe in gravity...") that "abstinence only" is basically the recipe for teen pregnancies and spread of STDs, and the policy should be fought. Still, if someone is edumacated and aware of sex ed and what not and says "that's all nice, but I'm still going to wait for mr. /ms. right", I don't think that person deserves to be mocked (even though it may seem very odd to the majority of us).

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:15 am

"believe in gravity..."

Heretic!

Veilan · Post by **Veilan** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:33 am

Rusty wrote:
"believe in gravity..."
Heretic!

You brought me down with your statement

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Cassiel · Post by **Cassiel** » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:20 pm

Um - actually, they get mocked for their beliefs because children are cruel, vicious creatures with unerring noses for hypocrisy and bullshit. Other teenagers with equally raging hormones who don't have penetrative sex because god told them to stick to oral? If you think about it, that's the proverbial red rag to a bull.

Also, I wouldn't want anyone, conservative or liberal, to be denied the human right to mock stupidity.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:57 am

When it comes to being shunned and disrespected, it always looked from here as if the worst thing you could admit to being in the US was an Atheist.

Grand Fromage · Post by **Grand Fromage** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:02 am

That's what the studies suggest. I've had it happen, which is why I keep it to myself in real life.