More than meets the eye

Joos · Post by **Joos** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:56 pm

The movie was awesome, just like a boyhood dream come true! I think they did an awesome job coolifying the robotic look and transformation-animation. The sheer scale and speed of the bots is just mindboggling and made me shrink back into my seat on several occasions during the movie. A must-see for everyone!

fluffmonster · Post by **fluffmonster** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:58 pm

omg how did you see it before we did? cheater, unfair, foul, foul!

Burt · Post by **Burt** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:04 pm

I think it's time someone blew up Australia.

Nekulor · Post by **Nekulor** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:33 pm

I, for once, agree with Burt.

Where are our Transformer bombs?

Nyarlathotep · Post by **Nyarlathotep** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:44 pm

I'm shocked...I've been assuming that this movie would be an absolute disaster. They just better have Starscream in it.

Drankathar · Post by **Drankathar** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:37 pm

Nyar they do and hes awesome.

Im seeing it again on sunday with my flatmates.

Just adding that to rub it in abit.

Kharnifex1 · Post by **Kharnifex1** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:06 pm

zed kaiser got to see it about 2 weeks before anyone did at a special premiere, and he's seen it again, everyone I know has, except me, and I keep getting told it's awesome.

Lusipher · Post by **Lusipher** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:22 pm

that sucks they opened in Australia but it wont open here till July 3rd. Looking forward to the movie, though. Looks great!

NickD · Post by **NickD** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:11 pm

It's opened here in New Zealand too.

Mord · Post by **Mord** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:20 pm

Well, they had Steven Spielberg to reign in the suckyness of Michael Bay.

Joos · Post by **Joos** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:36 pm

Could someone please explain to me what all the American gunships are doing in the Melbourne harbour? Better go see the movie agai before its too late! Go Starscream, go!

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:40 pm

From what I gather, Michael Whatsisface is good with the explosions, though Spielburg can hire fine actors and VFX crew. M.W. has some decent taste; he is semiquoted from Wired to have cringed at the first Transformers movie, and in hindsight... I can see why. The whole thing was an over-the-top promotion for the new line of toys and cheaply voiced/animated series from which to hawk advertisement and influence.

So that I might indulge a little logical paranoia about Gass Guzzling Robots in general. Living in Houston, I found out what the whole shebang were all about. They reflected aLOT of the petrolium/energy/enron's (energon) ideals. In one script, a tidal collector was built by the; gasp; Decepticons for generating unlimited electricity/energon for themselves, and it was our heros's duty to destroy said clean energy source. Notice alos how a pair of happy-go-lucky oilrig workers are also the main human protagonists throughout the whole story-arc. Two of far too many coincidences and I could name more, but I won't.

After living in Houston and getting to know, talk to, and heard stories about the energy field though people who worked in it, or for Enron, it all kinda fell together. The Transformers were cooked up to disuade social wrath toward those who make the fuel/propane/burning-tires-for-energy we all need to keep going; posterboys to keep you buying cars, and making sure you gassed them up, and paid through the nose. Subconsious seeds planted into the minds of young and impressionable children by big corporate oil. Unfortunately, the main sponsor behind it all went kaboom: Enron of course. So much for their plans O' social manipulation. Yes, people do burn tires in plants, the leftover petrolium resudue is used in recycled tires, and other petrolium products.

I don't think this scenerio applies toward the entire timeline of Transformer's production. In the begining, the series may have been simply a promotional to get kids playing with puzzle-toys: trucks and cars, instead of the traditional prepatory tools of death: guns and warplanes. Toy truck good, scoped-357 bad. I believe Hasbro's franchise simply have gotten too sucessful, and noticed. When a business deal came along, someone said do X with the series, and they did it. Their will was probably, and simply, bent to serve anothers'. The time and place was more than likely when plastic became cheaper than metal for toy construction; their suppliers had additional demands, and so in the name of Jack Profit, said arrangement was met.

I thought the painted metal and rubber toys were better anyway; they eventually took a bbgun pellette much better than that plastic crap. Oh for a .22 at 14.

In the end, I don't care much what the Tranformers reperesented. The series was overseas animated crap, with plotlines best suited for children. I enjoyed following what happened the way kids would have follow Ovaltine sponsored radio shows. Through this I understand why kids also enjoy Yu-Gi-Howdown or other things. Children are just following a plot, contrived bullshit it might be. Every cartoon producer knows this.

Burt · Post by **Burt** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:08 pm

^

What the fuck?

Grand Fromage · Post by **Grand Fromage** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:24 pm

Burt wrote:^

What the f*sk?

Hey now, don't scare him away. I'm still waiting to hear how the Illuminati were using Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to lay the foundations of their New World Order. After all, mutant turtles = REPTILIANS! HELLO I CAN'T BELIEVE NO ONE HAS NOTICED THIS BEFORE ME

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:55 pm

I understand your perspective on the whole paranoia-conspiricy being bull in itself. If you'd heard some of the reports on NPR about lobbying groups, and what exactly what kind of crap they're up to, you'd not be so dismissive. Never said my observations are true, they're quite possibly misdirected, but some facts are kinda' hard to ignore.

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