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As for the black holes occuring (theoretically) in the atmosphere all the time - Perhaps the reason they haven't destroyed the planet is because there's not enough stuff up in the atmosphere to suck in so it dies off. As opposed to in the LHC which is surrounded by a whole lot of matter.
lol, omg, you have no idea how friggin' hilarious that sounds. "not enough stuff up in the atmosphere to suck it in so it dies off."

Seriously Nick, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Oh, and that video is an absolute joke. The person who created it is virtually clueless on Hawking's research, which revolved around collapsed stars, and not necessarily dense matter.
should be concerning enough to anyone who remembers how well researched and highly funded experiments by very intelligent scientists have gone horribly, horribly wrong in the past.
Umm, could you point to me just 'one' of these experiments that went horribly horribly wrong?
Scientists are often too eager to try out new things, too comfortable in their own belief of what they think they know to be true, that they ignore the dangers.
You have been watching way too many anti-science sci-fi movies.
I don't dispute that these experiments are worthwhile. I just wish they would have waited until they could perform it on Mars or something. With an escape plan from Earth.
Hehe, and you think a 'black hole,' as speculated by the paranoiacs, is going to be 'safer' were it on Mars instead of on Earth? lol... seriously, that's even more funny than your "not enough stuff in the atmosphere" comment.
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I see no point in arguing the point with you. You obviously already know everything there is to know. Seriously, you're worse than a Republican.
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I see. I didn't ask to argue, i asked for you to provide evidence. You have not done so yet.

Seriously Nick, just how many years have you studied physics that you can claim to be knowledgeable enough to debate this topic?
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NickD wrote:I don't dispute that these experiments are worthwhile. I just wish they would have waited until they could perform it on Mars or something. With an escape plan from Earth.
If a large black hole actually formed, it wouldn't matter where in the system it happened. There's nowhere near enough mass in the Solar system for one to form though.
NickD wrote:As for the black holes occuring (theoretically) in the atmosphere all the time - Perhaps the reason they haven't destroyed the planet is because there's not enough stuff up in the atmosphere to suck in so it dies off. As opposed to in the LHC which is surrounded by a whole lot of matter.
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Okay, several things:
A) There's plenty of matter in the atmosphere.
B) The Earth is not the only object in the universe. If high-energy particle collisions caused black holes to form, there wouldn't be anything else. There are millions of rocks in the Solar system alone that don't have atmospheres, and everything gets hit just as much as we do. Things like GRBs produce particles of energies so far beyond anything we could ever do that it's nearly incomprehensible. Particle beams visible for billions of light years. The LHC is nothing compared to what nature does every day.
C) You don't understand gravity. Gravity is not some magical force that appears from nowhere. It's a function of mass. That's it. Two protons slammed together do not have enough mass to have a measurable gravitational pull. The chair you're sitting on is trillions of times more gravitationally dangerous than anything the LHC could possibly create.

The only--the ONLY--possible danger from the LHC is if some magnets fail and the particle beam cuts through the side of the tube. It would drill through a few meters of dirt before being shut off. If you were standing in front of it, it would not be pleasant. That is the worst case scenario.
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