Democrats' criminal vote fraud and manipulation

ç i p h é r · Post by **ç i p h é r** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:10 pm

dergon darkhelm wrote:it is because the poor, the homeless, the transiently dislocated, the mentally ill and the poorly educated (all folks statistically less likely to hold ID) are all more likely to vote democrat than republican.

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, that seems like a rather dubious voting bloc to be pursuing. Doesn't it?

danielmn · Post by **danielmn** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:18 pm

Yeah, makes me wonder why the democratic party is considered the elitist party....

dergon darkhelm · Post by **dergon darkhelm** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:18 pm

ç i p h é r wrote:
dergon darkhelm wrote:it is because the poor, the homeless, the transiently dislocated, the mentally ill and the poorly educated (all folks statistically less likely to hold ID) are all more likely to vote democrat than republican.
Playing devil's advocate for a moment, that seems like a rather dubious voting bloc to be pursuing. Doesn't it?

Not at all.

From my perspective, a society is judged on how they treat the weakest among it. I am proud to affiliate myself with the party of policies that provide support and a safety net to those people above in the greatest need.

Encouraging those people to take part in the deomcratic process is a laudable goal.

((am I so naive to think that pure altruism drives this, no ....but still I think those people should vote, be involved, and deserve to have their concerns addressed as much as do other members of our American society))

danielmn · Post by **danielmn** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:22 pm

That's crap! Only the gun toters and wealthy businessmen and Devout Christians need have their concerns adressed. The rest can go to hell!!!

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:37 pm

C, you sound like the Texan from Catch-22 (which, y'know, is A Bad Thing.)

(And increased education generally correlates with increased likelihood of voting Democrat.)

A shame that almost all of the furore surrounding ACORN is straw. There is no evidence of systematic electoral fraud perpetrated or planned by ACORN or any other similar Democratic-aligned organisation, while there is evidence of systematic electoral fraud by Republican-aligned organisations. The traction that the (former, ACORN) fraud fantasy gains is a depressing testimony to the dysfunction of a bipolar-narrative obsessed media and an astonishingly partisan self-defining populace. Its hard to see how the situation is likely to change for the better, although a GOP-fragmentation after an Obama victory might be some kind of start. After all, one imagines that there is little territory to the right left to explore, but, frankly, that is more in hope than sober judgement.

dergon darkhelm · Post by **dergon darkhelm** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:37 pm

danielmn wrote:That's crap! Only the gun toters and wealthy businessmen and Devout Christians need have their concerns adressed. The rest can go to hell!!!

Seriously though ...in an attempt to make it known that I do not belittle or minimzie the concers of those other groups you name...they deserve to have their concerns addressed too.

Caring about your second ammendment rights and your hard earned money does not make you a bad person, nor does believeing that the USA should be a nation based on Christian values.

I do not personally find those to be issues that should be at a high priority for our nation and choose to vote accordingly.

For me this election is about assuring the supreme court moves back to the center, putting a halt to concentration of wealth in our country that has escalated severely in the last years (decades really), seeing a more globally multilateral foreign policy, a sustainable energy policy, and continued broadening of civil protections for everyone.

There you have ....the dergon manifesto.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:47 pm

Maybe they should give you three votes.

Mulu · Post by **Mulu** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:03 pm

dergon darkhelm wrote:For me this election is about assuring the supreme court moves back to the center, putting a halt to concentration of wealth in our country that has escalated severely in the last years (decades really), seeing a more globally multilateral foreign policy, a sustainable energy policy, and continued broadening of civil protections for everyone.

There you have ....the dergon manifesto.

Add in a better education policy, bankruptcy relief for average citizens (corporations already have it), shoring up the separation of church and state, and increasing regulatory safeguards and I think we have the next 4 years pretty much defined.

Makes me wonder how Republicans ever win elections. Oh, that's right, gay marriage is against god's will....

ç i p h é r · Post by **ç i p h é r** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:35 pm

Rusty wrote:C, you sound like the Texan from Catch-22 (which, y'know, is A Bad Thing.)

(And increased education generally correlates with increased likelihood of voting Democrat.)

It's not the lack of education but the lack of awareness that I was alluding to. Where do the poor, the transient homeless, and the mentally ill get their information on the candidates?

Brokenbone · Post by **Brokenbone** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:39 pm

ç i p h é r wrote:
Rusty wrote:C, you sound like the Texan from Catch-22 (which, y'know, is A Bad Thing.)

(And increased education generally correlates with increased likelihood of voting Democrat.)
It's not the lack of education but the lack of awareness that I was alluding to. Where do the poor, the transient homeless, and the mentally ill get their information on the candidates?

ALFA!

danielmn · Post by **danielmn** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:42 pm

The newspapers they use for insulation and pillows, Ci.

*ducks*

Mulu · Post by **Mulu** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:48 pm

Brokenbone wrote:
ç i p h é r wrote:It's not the lack of education but the lack of awareness that I was alluding to. Where do the poor, the transient homeless, and the mentally ill get their information on the candidates?
ALFA!

ROFLMAO

MorbidKate · Post by **MorbidKate** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:37 am

Rusty wrote:C, you sound like the Texan from Catch-22

o.O

Luved the book. Movie is also a fav of mine. And yes, Cipher is the Texan

Kate

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:24 am

C wrote:It's not the lack of education but the lack of awareness that I was alluding to. Where do the poor, the transient homeless, and the mentally ill get their information on the candidates?

You're a hair's breadth away from Danubusland. Stop, while you still have a chance.

fluffmonster · Post by **fluffmonster** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:30 pm

ç i p h é r wrote: It's not the lack of education but the lack of awareness that I was alluding to. Where do the poor, the transient homeless, and the mentally ill get their information on the candidates?

Though I am admittedly 'elitist' I guess, in the grand scheme of things its hard for me to say the judgment of these sorts of people is somehow remarkably more problematic than the judgment of bigots or zealots or single-issue voters in general.