Running in Game

[danielmn]

<MaskedIllusion>: So..... odd question. Sense BG has that handy Con check thing when you run. Are you allowed run now sens eyou will get panalized for it?
<MaskedIllusion>: And nothing
<MaskedIllusion>: I like my silly human
<Gonz_2port>: good question.
<Gonz_2port>: make a 18 con barbarian monk mail runner
<MaskedIllusion>: I mean it does seem logical. The only time yo would be running enough for it to mater would be on the roads
<MaskedIllusion>: running in combat will almost never be enough to trigger it
<MaskedIllusion>: So, sense we have a built in "this iswhat happens when you run to much" running hsould be legal, i think
<Hyme>: is it
<Hyme>: i will start running places now
<MaskedIllusion>: Yay, i will screen shot that so now if i get in trouble for unning i can just say "but hyme said it was ok. how was i to know"
<Hyme>: i thought you said it was ok
<MaskedIllusion>: I said it makes sense that it would be ok
<Hyme>: well i better stop running then
<MaskedIllusion>: There is no reason why you would have a panalty AND it be illegal
<Hyme>: got no con check by the way
<MaskedIllusion>: you have to run for a while
<MaskedIllusion>: Why is why i said it will never come up in combat running
<Hyme>: how long is a while
<MaskedIllusion>: unless te oger is chassing you half way across the server
<MaskedIllusion>: i don't know exactly. but, a while
<Magile>: I had the Constitution checks pop up after a screen-length of running.
<Hyme>: seems old
<Hyme>: you would think it would pop up before that
<Hyme>: !players

Can we get an answer on this? It will greatly determine a lot of things for me.

[kid]

No running.

[Darkmystic]

From a real BG DM: You can run in BG, as long you got rp reason for it. Running with mail for example is fine if you rp out the mail season for real rather then just jogging. We got mechanics to penalize. I cant answer for the other servers though.

[Galadorn]

No running.

X2!

[Sidhe]

From a real BG DM: You can run in BG, as long you got rp reason for it. Running with mail for example is fine if you rp out the mail season for real rather then just jogging. We got mechanics to penalize. I cant answer for the other servers though.

I think what is being asked for here is a stance from someone that "matters", not individual DM's - what you allow to happen during your own sessions in regard to running is your business, but that doesnt cover everyone outside of your sessions, nor does it hold any light in my sessions, nor does it put forward the position of the BG server.

[Swift]

TSM remains the same as it ever has: If you have reason to run, then run, but if you are running just to finish your statics a little quicker or running on the world map, sooner or later a DM will put a stop to it.

[Wild Wombat]

I'm impressed that I don't need my marshmallows yet!

Gotta ask though: shouldn't this be a rule that applies consistently across servers - meaning a question for Admin? I don't want to have to remember that it is OK on TSM if I am being chased by an Ogre, on BG if I am delivering mail or being chased by an Ogre, on MS if I am being stoned by a pack of vicious ten year old villagers and on WHL only if Heero glares at me with Sauron's Eye.

(My opinion on when running is allowed is being withheld to protect the innocent.)

[kid]

shouldn't this be a rule that applies consistently across servers - meaning a question for Admin?

It is. No running on ALFA unless you've IC reason to. (As it seems some DMs consider "you've got mail" a vaild RP reason. I doubt many other DMs would.)
Nothing has changed in our rules to allow running. The BG system (which is very cool) does not change that.

(If we want to have idiots running about might as well go play WoW)

[Zelknolf]

I think the question is still one of metagaming?

"I run my mailbags around because I know there's no static spawns on the way and I won't really 'feel' the penalties" seems a little dodgey.

[Darkmystic]

Some want to roleplay mailrunners, other lesbian priestesses. Why point fingers?

[dergon darkhelm]

Running with mail is weak-ass meta BS-



The script itself was meant not as a means to allow running to a certain extent but to prevent excesses. IMHO it should *not* be a con based things at all.... that just gives it the veneeer of an ingame mechanic.


Are you being chased by a deadly monster? If yes, then run
Are you running in combat to aid a fallen friend? If yes, then run


Are you running to bring a mailbag from Baldur's Gate to nashkel? SLOW THE FUCK DOWN AND WALK! THIS IS ALFA FOR FUCK'S SAKE! STOP ACTING LIKE A PGING DUMBASS!

[Veilan]

The "rule" that needs to be considered here is not "applying fatigue for extensive running" but...

2.1 Metagaming
Metagaming is gaming that transcends the game. It is taking advantage of the fact that NwN is a game, and doing things you could not do if you were actually in the game world.

The fatigue script is just a way to deal with legitimate running - it does not forbid it, it just makes you pay for it, and it certainly does not think for you. If you hit the script while running in a very immersive and IC fashion? Great roleplay, offering you a chance to now roleplay your exhaustion as well! If you don't hit the script while running without legitimate reason? That's no excuse for your behaviour either.

If someone pretends you can cover the distance from Baldur's Gate to Nashkel with a full-on sprint to and fro and thinking the rule that makes legitimate running more realistic somehow sanctions their behaviour, then I ought to thank them for demonstrating flawlessly how the notion of "just trust our members, we don't need dumb bureaucratic rules!" is a noble ideal, but garbage in human practice, for so many more reasons than just simple malevolence.

Cheers,

[Xanthea]

1) Staying IC when alone is stupid and nonsensical and serves little to no purpose. This is a collaborative game.

2) Distance IG is totally arbitrary anyway. What's the difference in crossing 100 miles in two minutes or one minute?

3) Realistically a 14-16+ con person should be able to jog for extended periods of time without suffering overly much from it (depending on levels of encumbrance).

If you want PnP rules on that then someone can jog for six hours and only take 31 points of non-lethal damage and a -2 str and dex penalty. And the stat penalty goes away as soon as the non-lethal damage does.

[dergon darkhelm]

1) Staying IC when alone is stupid and nonsensical and serves little to no purpose.

To that I say --- " BAH!"


In ALFA we walk from place to place unless it is IC to otherwise.



Our rules on metagaming, powergaming, farming, etc do NOT cease to apply because you are alone in game.

[Castano]

1) Staying IC when alone is stupid and nonsensical and serves little to no purpose. This is a collaborative game.

Why are soloers running? - oh wait to bank massive amounts of gp/xp from stacked statics.

I like the fact BG has a way to make a few coins when I needed them for the boat to TSM etc. But people blatantly abusing a server for XP/GP is just silly.