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Rapid Shot with slings, dart,axes

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:12 pm
by dergon darkhelm
Are these engined as "ranged weapons" in the NWN2 engine so that the
rapid shot" feat would apply. I know that crossbows are excluded but can't find out much else.


By PnP they are.... ( "Ranged weapons are thrown weapons or projectile weapons that are not effective in melee. ")

Just want to make sure that the NWN2 engine thinks so.

Re: Rapid Shot with slings, dart,axes

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:57 pm
by hollyfant
Yes they are. Shurikens too.

Re: Rapid Shot with slings, dart,axes

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:27 pm
by Veilan
So why not crossbows with quick reload? How does PnP do it? :chin:

Re: Rapid Shot with slings, dart,axes

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:37 pm
by dergon darkhelm
Veilan wrote:So why not crossbows with quick reload? How does PnP do it? :chin:
I think your question is the answer. "Rapid shot" can be used with crossbow, but only with the pre-req of "rapid reload" (note: this answer only has a confidence level of 70%)

Re: Rapid Shot with slings, dart,axes

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:44 pm
by hollyfant
Xbows should benefit from the Rapid Shot feat once you also have Rapid Reload, but don't - at least not completely. As I understand it, Rapid Reload gives one extra attack with a crossbow - provided you have more than one attacks per round. So having an attack progression of 6/1 would do the trick, and Rapid Shot too. But having both will not give you three attacks with a crossbow.

Although extra attacks from a magical source (like haste) do seem to work.

Re: Rapid Shot with slings, dart,axes

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:49 pm
by Veilan
Borked in NWN 2 though, guess it's another of Obsidian's lovelinesses we have to deal with.

Re: Rapid Shot with slings, dart,axes

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:10 am
by Ithildur
hollyfant wrote:Xbows should benefit from the Rapid Shot feat once you also have Rapid Reload, but don't - at least not completely. As I understand it, Rapid Reload gives one extra attack with a crossbow - provided you have more than one attacks per round. So having an attack progression of 6/1 would do the trick, and Rapid Shot too. But having both will not give you three attacks with a crossbow.

Although extra attacks from a magical source (like haste) do seem to work.

Not quite. Rapid Reload: The time required for you to reload your chosen type of crossbow is reduced to a free action (for a hand or light crossbow) or a move action (for a heavy crossbow).

So with Rapid Reload and a hand/light crossbow, you can fire as fast as a REAL bow, so you get extra attacks at BAB +6 and/or with Rapid Shot. However you couldn't do this with a Heavy Crossbow, still stuck at 1 shot per round no matter how high your BAB or whatever feats you have, hasted, etc. Without the feat, you actually can fire only once every other round with a heavy.

But yes, regardless nwn2 doesn't quite match up.