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Post by JaydeMoon »

http://www.alandfaraway.org/forums/view ... =3&t=41200

Really?

Wow, lol!

You just wanted to take a moment and rant a bit at some people, accuse them of some shit and when they didn't rise to the bait, say, "Alright, that's all I wanted to say" and lock the post?

What an attention whore! :lol:

Seriously, I like you Zic. You're a pretty cool guy whenever I have dealt with you, but I have seen you act like a real jerk.

When things are all good, they're all good. But when someone pisses you off, acts like an idiot, or whatever they do that you don't agree with, you get nastier than anyone else I have seen in this community.

You're like, "fukkity fuk fuk fukkin fukkity fuk!"

You have displayed your willingness to abuse your authority in the past and you operate with hypocrisy now.

Of COURSE some people are going to disagree with you, your actions, and your seat as IA. That doesn't mean there's some conspiracy to sling mud on Zicada's good name. You rubbed the mud on yourself and now you're throwing punches when people point out that you got it on.

I know that some folks are operating under the conception that you got that IA warning and not a strike (for what was TOTALLY a strikeworthy offense) because Paazin didn't want to offend you and take a chance that you might (again) take our infrastructure hostage. Some believe that Paazin might have even said something to that point in "private" conversation with someone.

I don't know what Paazin's reasoning was. Maybe he honestly thought all you needed was a warning :shrug:

He sure didn't take the time to explain why something that was utterly strikeworthy only warranted a warning in that case. Certainly wasn't the first time you shot your mouth off at someone.

Anyway, I guess the point is, you have shown a pattern of vicious and spiteful behavior and I'm sure you have your defenses for all of it, why you were justified, why so and so was an idiot, whatever. Me, I don't particularly care. You've always been pretty cordial with me and you like some good music and we can have some good conversations. But others see that and wonder what it means that the community was happy to put you in a leadership position and what that means for them and the direction of the community.

On the other hand, they're just discussing what they are thinking and what they might want to do about it behind closed doors because they aren't exactly keen on spouting off their drama to all of ALFA (unlike Zicada, the Infra Admin who tries to call them out, rants, then locks the post). Of course they are talking to people, individually, because amongst community members, we have some people we kind of think of as 'friends'. And what is said in private here is spread as rumor in public there.

Some people believe that change won't come in ALFA even if it means the boat sinks. They may or may not be right, but I, personally, see why they think that. So now they have to decide what they want to do about it.

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And Kest, yes, what you say in private is strikable if it's said on ALFA Forums or Chat. You may scoff and think it's ridiculous but otherwise there is no way to stop Joe from spamming John with hateful letters of hate. And Joe should not be allowed to spam ANYONE with hateful letters of hate.
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Re: Really?

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I was never asking anyone to post anything. I was asking whoever has major issues with me to come talk to me,- and apparently I had pretty good reason to:

What seems to have been a major issue, I wasn't even aware existed. Had someone bothered to actually tell me, It would have ceased to be a problem immediately.

If people I don't even know refuse to answer my PMs when i calmly and rationally ask them what their beef is with me, twice, I'll try and figure it out another way. How does anyone expect anything to change if they won't tell me what the problem is ?

So I yelled at Nalo like an idiot one night when I was drunk and he was particularly annoying, I said I was sorry about that, and I meant it.

What else ? I "took the vault hostage" for a total of 20 minutes one time back in 2005, for reasons none of you even have any idea about or care to. Or is it that some few people don't like the way I act on IRC in my own free time in between the hours of work i put into this place every day ? People who aren't even there ?

What else ? I yelled at Danubus one time for openly hating gay people.

I'm not being paranoid. All I'm saying is this: It does nobody any good to have a few people go around spreading negativity and crap, and not having the balls to even tell me to my face what's up.

Chamu is a HDM, he is supposed to communicate with the admin body. Every HDM is, that's how a community works.

If you all feel like going on and on in a thread, be my guest. All i was asking for was for people to actually talk to ME instead of others, is that really so horrible ?
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All i was asking for was for people to actually talk to ME instead of others, is that really so horrible ?
No, all you were doing was asking for people to actually talk to YOU instead of others in an asshole manner.
If it would help, I could set up a channel, and a date, so everyone can come and vent all they want.
Marginalization.
Stop this stupid nonsense
Offensive marginalization.
Please, grow some balls and confront me.
Antagonism
I do however also do tons of work, pretty good work as well, probably 90% of which 95% of you have no clue what is, or that its even necessary to make this project float.
Condescension.
So please, either:

A: Confront me with whatever issues or grudges you hold against me so that I can sort them out, or at least give me the decency to explain my POV.

or

B: STFU already
Seriously, these are the words of someone who truly wants to work some shit out with his detractors? Your language from the start, in a public thread, is defensive and hostile.

The first step towards trying to fix things is to stop being an asshole yourself. THEN try to deal with people you think are being assholes to YOU.

You defense of being drunk is no defense. Sorry is nice, but the next time you're drunk, who are you gonna rattle off an inappropriate PM to? Which guy that's on your shit list?
What else ? I yelled at Danubus one time for openly hating gay people.
No, you have repeatedly goaded Danubus into arguments, belittling him, calling him an idiot and a redneck, calling him an asshole, etc, for having views that differ from yours. And then when you've pushed him too far and he gets irate at you, you ban him from chat. One time? Kid yourself, Zicada, but you can't kid me, I've seen it. Not saying you've started all such arguments, certainly Danubus isn't an innocent victim, but don't pretend you haven't trolled him on occasion.

And if you care to explain why you held the vault hostage, even if it was only for '20 minutes', maybe that would go a long way towards making people feel better about you. Or maybe it will just prove how small minded you can be at times.

All I'm saying, Zic, is that you can be an asshole and that you often ARE an asshole. Just own it and stop being surprised that some people don't like it when you act like an asshole.

Mitigating your assholeness by saying, "Yeah, I may be an asshole, but look at all the GOOD stuff I do too!" doesn't cut it. Great, you're a hard working asshole.
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Re: Really?

Post by Rotku »

Yay! THis is the ALFA we all know and love!

Drama!

Complaining about people in the General Discussion forum. Great way to solve all the worlds problems guys. Nice and constructive.

Think about taking it to PMs, please.
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Re: Really?

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To all newcomers, welcome to ALFA.

These threads are what actually keep us together, in a sadly ironic manner. We're a community with lots of history, lots of passion, vitriol and commitment. The best thing about us is that after this thread, we'll still be here.

If you see us only as a game forum you might miss the subtext, whiich is that we're actually a big community; a rag-tag family of D&D lovers.

These threads are kind of like (pick your favourite renewal metaphor). Today it's all drama, anger, blood and vengeance. Tomorrow it'll be like the sea after a storm....tranquil, serene, beautiful. I warned you about the metaphor.

Sometimes we leave bodies in the wrackage created by these threads. I doubt we will this time. This just looks like a little chest-thumping, a little sisterly Chinese burn, an idealogical arm-wrestle between geeks.

Sit back, enjoy the show, and don't think for a second that ALFA is somehow falling apart. If we didn't have this kind of things, we'd have fallen apart a long time ago.
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I callz time outz.
There's a place I like to hide
A doorway that I run through in the night
Relax child, you were there
But only didn't realize and you were scared
It's a place where you will learn
To face your fears, retrace the years
And ride the whims of your mind
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