Dropping Out of the Race

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Post by Amar »

The fact that there is this much contest over the issue should be a sign that those in favour are very strongly so. And that this isn't going to be put to bed easily.

There's no harm to be done by allowing them. It's easy enough to just go "piss off, half breed." Or "get away from me, slut of a djinn." And the stigma DOES apply to the Assimar. They are still signs of something unnatural in the past, regardless of the fact that it was a holy being that caused it. This is Faerun, Good or Evil doesn't make too much of a difference to the mass public.

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. Y'all forget... the previous admin (Fluff and co.), as well as the admin that were in when I was lead (when NWN2 was out and I was in the beta test) all stated that Planetouched were in.
I havent. I was pissed to log on and see the change.
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Inaubryn wrote:Edit: P.S. GF (who was also in the NWN2 beta) and I tried to tell y'all that the density issue was a non-issue and that the server selection process was unecessary and retarded. But, did y'all listen? Noooooo. And, look now. And, we just had to go with the flow, because we NEEDED the process. Ah well.
Oh yeah, you were in the beta.

:lol:

You sure showed us.
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You know what strikes me as funny. How people who've never met each other in person can hate people over a computer screen. Indio, I don't dislike you, but we all know you have a grudge against me. Your DM status was taken away over a year ago by myself and Squamatus. Seriously, man. Is it that critical that you continue to lament those actions, which I assure you weren't personal on my part, can't speak for Squam, a year and a half later?

I mean, if you have that serious of an issue with it that you simply can't let something go, that transpired in a gaming community, then that's fine. I can't stop you from belaboring that incident with your snide, off-handed comments and emotes. I can't control what you do, only what I do. So, it's not that big of a deal to me. But, in all sincerity, sit down and think about what it is you're upset about after all this time and think about why. This is a community centered on a game. Nobody physically harmed you in anyway. If there was emotional or mental harm, then I really do apologize for that. I'm in no way being sarcastic. It wasn't my intent to try and hurt you or anybody else. I didn't have anything against you then and I don't now.

You're more than welcome to continue attacking me, I honestly don't mind. It's just words on a computer screen to me. But, I'm just sayin'. Look at what you're doin'. You attack me every chance you get over somethin' that's long since past. You're building a server for use in ALFA NWN2, you're contributing to ALFA NWN2 in every way you can. You've given toolset advice and help to those that have asked and that's been reciprocated. People have lauded you as one of the best builders here. What am I missing? Is it really that important to you to try so hard to dislike somebody you wouldn't know if you met them somewhere and struck up a conversation?

This is some of what I don't get about ALFA. Yes, I understand Michael Jackson and Depeche Mode, and people will be what they are. And you're not the only one. Many people now hate each other either because of some community spat or some in-game incident. It's beyond me and amusing that such negative emotions could come from what was supposed to be people comin' together for fun.

Ah well. C'est la vie, as they say. As I said, I completely understand why you do what you do, even if I wouldn't do it myself. I know I've retaliated in the past, but that was more to just say somethin'. Never was upset with you when I did that. Kinda hard to make me mad over a nerd's gaming forum. heh. I did talk to you on IRC that one time and I thought we had reached some sort of understanding, but I guess you changed your mind. Cool. Just wanted to post this.
"You people have not given Private Pyle the proper motivation! So, from now on, when Private Pyle fucks up... I will not punish him. I will punish all of you! And the way I see it, ladies... you owe me for one jelly donut! Now, get on your faces!"
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I just wanted to say, Injub that I also hate you. Except I have magical powers and when I meet you, they will alert me that it is indeed you. And then... oh then...
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Post by Inaubryn »

Oh really? Well, let's see how you do w/o your turntables. That's right... sweat the Techniques.
"You people have not given Private Pyle the proper motivation! So, from now on, when Private Pyle fucks up... I will not punish him. I will punish all of you! And the way I see it, ladies... you owe me for one jelly donut! Now, get on your faces!"
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You wasted my time, In00b. It was a year ago to you and long forgotten, but when you waste my time, that's not about forums or philosophy. You willfully, thoughtlessly and *repeatedly* wasted my time with your irrelevant investigations and 'chats'.

And while you continue to waste time on these boards with your homespun phlosophy and judgements about ALFA, an ALFA that I no longer see you as having any meaningful part in, I will continue to highlight my perspective on your contributions.

Thanks for asking.
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I wasted your time... on a gaming website? And this is your revenge for that slight... on a gaming website? Which involves you somehow attempting to do something that is going to affect me personally... on a gaming website? And you spend your time doing this... on a gaming website, that you've left several times in order to start your own world, or any number of other reasons including, not getting your way... on said gaming website? And, though you believe I have "no meaningful part in" this group of people dedicated to a game, you're wasting your own apparently meaningful time to tell me that I wasted your time... on a gaming website? And, you're doing all of this to highlight your perspective on my contributions, which in the past have exceeded your own, for this game... on this gaming website? Got it. Well, touche'. Vengeance is yours, my Australian friend. I just think you got the power-up and won the game. G'day mate! Let's put another shrimp on the barbie!
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"You people have not given Private Pyle the proper motivation! So, from now on, when Private Pyle fucks up... I will not punish him. I will punish all of you! And the way I see it, ladies... you owe me for one jelly donut! Now, get on your faces!"
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It's not revenge, In00b. It's just how it is.

You're the type that needs to reduce it to 'it's just a game', or categorise it, call it a gaming website, or philosiphize about it....the one thing you'll never get, ever, is that we're a community here.

So I'll ignore you from now on if it will make you happy. Please remember that some of us care around here. No one that reduces it to words and concepts has any real understanding of what that means I suspect.

edit: Your attempts as an Amercan to categorise me as an Australian parochial with your clutches at popularsed Australian colloquialisms, is actually quite embarrasing. For an American to attempt to do that to any other nation, or indeed to bring nationality into it at all, reveals more to me about who you really are than any of your IRC chats or current purported claims at philosophical objectivity.

Good day.
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Hey, you don't have to ignore me. I invite you to vent if that's what you feel you need to do. It's probably more cathartic if you don't bottle it all up anyway. And, you forget my Outbackian friend, that I've never left ALFA, ever. I stuck with ALFA through thick and thin, feast and famine. I've been here. Have you? At any given time, you threw a hissy fit and was out the door. You were one of the authors of "The [redacted]", you spend your time attacking other community members over a year and a half old grudge, or who don't see things your way, and yet you claim to know what community is? Come now, Indio. I've seen some of your posts over the last year, that have been directed to certain people, myself included, and, I'm sorry, mate, they don't reflect somebody who is truly tryin' to push for a productive community on all fronts. Community isn't just building stuff in a game. Statics don't solve everything, my didgeridoo blowin' friend. You like to build, and that's great. I applaud you for at least putting in the effort. It appears you've even learned a great deal since you built the stuff you built for ALFA NWN.

But, you are far from a model community member. Frankly, so am I these days. I honestly care less and less for ALFA as time goes by. I hate to admit that, but it's the truth, if nothing else. I've seen the ALFA community disintegrate and erode over the years down to the handful of people who are present here now. Even one of our new members, Blackorkz has cited the hate we have for each other here in ALFA. A true community, in that sense of the word, doesn't do and say the things to each other we do here. ALFA hasn't been a true, and united community for some time. Anybody without rose-colored glasses, and/or blinders on, can tell you that. And, while some may debate the part you've played in that, you and anybody else that knows your persona from these boards have to admit, when someone says community your name isn't the first to come to mind, or the twentieth for that matter. Unfortunately, you're not the only one, which is why the ALFA community has suffered. The only reason you haven't been summarily banned, is because some people think the good you do outweighs your bad. Others have been summarily banned because not only were they horrible community members, they didn't do a damn thing to help the community in anyway. Good community members don't have infra-strikes for board behavior and have never been banned or faced banning.

That's just how it is. And... uh watch where you throw those stones. Ya might shatter one of your walls. ;)

Edit: You mean, everything I learned from Paul Hogan was a lie? Oh, the disappointment.
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"You people have not given Private Pyle the proper motivation! So, from now on, when Private Pyle fucks up... I will not punish him. I will punish all of you! And the way I see it, ladies... you owe me for one jelly donut! Now, get on your faces!"
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Post by darrenhfx »

Can we give this a rest for a bit maybe? I think we all get the point.
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I totally don't get the point.

Please continue.

/me goes to grab some popcorn.

Eventually this is gonna break down in sweaty hate sex. If you stop it, Burt is gonna be sad.
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Hi Mom!

:wink:

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Kill, what's up cat daddy?
"You people have not given Private Pyle the proper motivation! So, from now on, when Private Pyle fucks up... I will not punish him. I will punish all of you! And the way I see it, ladies... you owe me for one jelly donut! Now, get on your faces!"
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JaydeMoon wrote:I totally don't get the point.

Please continue.

/me goes to grab some popcorn.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

People Are People

People are people
So why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully?

So we're different colours
And we're different creeds
And different people have different needs
It's obvious you hate me
Though I've done nothing wrong
I've never even met you so what could I have done?

I can't understand
What makes a man
Hate another man
Help me understand

Now you're punching
And you're kicking
And you're shouting at me
I'm relying on your common decency
So far it hasn't surfaced
But I'm sure it exists
It just takes a while to travel
From your head to your fists
"The God of the Qurʾan is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." -- Vaelahr
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Inaubryn wrote:Yes, I understand Michael Jackson and Depeche Mode...
Now see if you can get the Michael Jackson reference.
"You people have not given Private Pyle the proper motivation! So, from now on, when Private Pyle fucks up... I will not punish him. I will punish all of you! And the way I see it, ladies... you owe me for one jelly donut! Now, get on your faces!"
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