Well, I am still committed. Let's see if Alred can recover anything and then go from there.ç i p h é r wrote:Rick, I agree with you in principle and wouldn't mind helping the SF server come online, if Indio wants the help, but postponing Waterdeep will very likely sabotage our efforts to collaborate with the folks at the Citadel. Something to think about. I'm not sure that's an opportunity we should waste if we can help it.
Apologies to Cipher and the community
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Hey Aelred,
I feel for you mate, I really do.
I had exactly the same thing happen to me early in the Moonsea project just after I the toolset went gold. It absolutely crushed me as it killed countless hours of my work and my spirit to build, the file I had been working on with a complete Zhentil Keep old city draft build just VANISHED into the thin air in a crash..
You may or may not want to hear this, its entirely up to you if you want to look for a solution at this time. The way I handled it when it happened to me -:
1. Took a reasonable break from building until the frustration, lamentation, assasination and defenestration urges subsided. I'm serious, I actually stopped myself from trying to build anything until I'd gotten over it properly.
2. I made a new policy for myself that I save with a different filename every time (this has saved my ass more than once since, I can count at least four potentially terrible crashes where I only lost 20-30 minutes work rather than 200-300 hours work but none as bad as losing the ENTIRE FILE).
3. Accepted the lost build for what it was and thought to myself "Okay, I guess that was a practice run, time to build the real deal now."
4. I thought about all the things I could do differently in the new build. So the things that took me a long time, I planned how to cut down the time required. I planned to lay the basics quickly to give myself more time on the fun window dressing bit.
5. Since I already had a good idea of scale and what I wanted to include from my "draft" build, I built the areas again 200% better than the first time and did it 100% faster.
Take it easy mate. Go bush and chill out, it gets better.
- Dez
I feel for you mate, I really do.
I had exactly the same thing happen to me early in the Moonsea project just after I the toolset went gold. It absolutely crushed me as it killed countless hours of my work and my spirit to build, the file I had been working on with a complete Zhentil Keep old city draft build just VANISHED into the thin air in a crash..
You may or may not want to hear this, its entirely up to you if you want to look for a solution at this time. The way I handled it when it happened to me -:
1. Took a reasonable break from building until the frustration, lamentation, assasination and defenestration urges subsided. I'm serious, I actually stopped myself from trying to build anything until I'd gotten over it properly.
2. I made a new policy for myself that I save with a different filename every time (this has saved my ass more than once since, I can count at least four potentially terrible crashes where I only lost 20-30 minutes work rather than 200-300 hours work but none as bad as losing the ENTIRE FILE).
3. Accepted the lost build for what it was and thought to myself "Okay, I guess that was a practice run, time to build the real deal now."
4. I thought about all the things I could do differently in the new build. So the things that took me a long time, I planned how to cut down the time required. I planned to lay the basics quickly to give myself more time on the fun window dressing bit.
5. Since I already had a good idea of scale and what I wanted to include from my "draft" build, I built the areas again 200% better than the first time and did it 100% faster.
Take it easy mate. Go bush and chill out, it gets better.
- Dez
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[22:52] <Veilan> obviously something sinister must be afoot if a DM does not have his social security number in his avatar name!
[22:52] <Veilan> obviously something sinister must be afoot if a DM does not have his social security number in his avatar name!
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Re: Apologies to Cipher and the community
That seems a little off-base. I've been using the Toolsetting forum and the tutorials linked within and they've been a great help. I'm sure others have been as well and like me, haven't reached a stage where they've gotten stuck and needed to post a question... yet. Mind you, it's early on so I know the questions will come.Aelred wrote:So against the warnings of the skeptics I tried to have faith in the Alfa community and I created the NWN2: Toolsetting forum, posting basic tutorials there and offering help to anyone who asks. I am shocked at the total lack of response. Yet people have hours upon hours to rant and rave in the friggin off topics forum. WTF!
I hope nobody was expecting an immediate influx of builders so soon after starting the Toolsetting forum. It's going to take some time
Anyway, I lost a huge amount of work on TPI when my hard drive blew up on me and had to start over. It's a crushing feeling and it sucks. And I had backups... but not off-disk. Now I keep my backups on separate media.
Take a break and don't give up. I'm also sure you can recover something since there are so many file recovery software options available.
Kate
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