A word on biting ....

Thangorn · Post by **Thangorn** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:57 pm

oldgrayrogue wrote:I did not mean to suggest that Admin should dictate to builders what project they are required to work on, but more of a collaborative structure, where people could volunteer to do some of the debugging and whatnot that needs to be done to get the next project in line to live in return for some of the same cooperation when it is their server's turn to get to live.

Excellent point. You'll be happy to know that our builders help test each other's work. I certainly help test other people's mods and other builders from other teams on more than one occassion have stepped in to give me a hand with/fix something.

I see what you are saying and its definitely a valid point. Dont take my comments as invalidating your excellent idea.

GF wrote:This kind of sh*t certainly doesn't help keep them.

Yes well I edited my initial response. Certainly gets me fired up when I am bustin' my ass fighting toolset crashes to build a mod for someone like this to play on..

Sintaqx · Post by **Sintaqx** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:36 pm

Some designated test sessions where a DM can be available (and have a list of things to test) would help alot, especially in beta 1 and 2 servers

Inaubryn · Post by **Inaubryn** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:25 am

I am currently working on an underdark settlement at the moment, but not for ALFA. I was going to build it then ship a copy to ALFA. But, since ALFA's haks and Exodus's haks differ in content and where that content is placed, that won't work. So, if need be, you can withdraw the underdark server or my name as HDM from the underdark server.

ThinkTank · Post by **ThinkTank** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:11 am

Grand Fromage wrote:
LancasterX_2 wrote:What builders? Do we have any left?
This kind of sh*t certainly doesn't help keep them.

I build, I just dont build quickly.

White Warlock · Post by **White Warlock** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:40 pm

Thangorn wrote:
GF wrote:This kind of sh*t certainly doesn't help keep them.
Yes well I edited my initial response. Certainly gets me fired up when I am bustin' my ass fighting toolset crashes to build a mod for someone like this to play on..

GF wasn't referring to you Thang. Your comments were dead-on and did not require any editing.

And Oldgrayrogue, your willingness to ask these questions is refreshing. Hope you continue to find more reasons to contribute and participate in ALFA.

Thangorn · Post by **Thangorn** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:16 pm

no GF was referring to Lancaster's apathetic comments WW and I was agree-ing with GFs sentiment..

Marklos · Post by **Marklos** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:25 am

I'm really trying not to get angry here over Danubus' comments, because he's partially correct, but that's ebcause he thinks all I do in my spare time is play MMOs. That is not the case.

In my spare time, I do school. My last motivated posts were July of last year. Why? Because I started school in August. As Thangs said, I build, just not very fast. To bash me on the forums, not an inexperienced builder for ALFA, through thick and thin, with the help of Thinktank and Rusty, brought a server to live in NWN1, is in poor taste, whatever your intentions.

I've built a server alone for a long time. A long time because it's hard as heck to stay motivated solo. I have no desire to build any other part of Faerun as much as TFN, which is another thinkg I agree on with Thangs.

I have easily enough content on my server to go Beta 1 right now. If I pushed really hard, I could get to beta 2 within a month.

....I can't believe I feel like I have to defend myself...again.

Lusipher · Post by **Lusipher** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:26 pm

I wasnt knocking you and you know that, James. I probably know you better than anyone here and I know your busy and I know in your spare time that you get you like to unwind. You need help, bud. We both know it. You like to build alone, mostly, though. Aki is doing what she can, but shes hella busy too right now and Im just not experienced enough with the toolset to help you.

Ask for some help, man. I want to see TFN go live just as much as you do, but I also know at the rate your getting to work on it its going to take awhile unless you get some others onboard and thats what I was saying.

You dont have to defend yourself at all. We know you got a lot on your plate. Just ask for some help.

Wynna · Post by **Wynna** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:01 pm

I'm glad to see all the work you're doing for ALFA these days, Lusipher, but remember that the people you're writing about are out here reading, too, please. Markie, you're one of the finest builders we have. Perfection (and RL and school and family) take time.

We don't need another quarrel, especially not one Lusipher didn't intend to start, I believe. Best settled by PM, gentlemen.

Castano · Post by **Castano** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:18 am

I f anyone wants to volunteer to help build Island Kingdoms please contact me by PM...I've asked before but didn't get much response except for a fine person who helped do a terrain area once.

Project is still alive and was last worked on in June of 2008 (lowhill halfling village exterior completed)