Spear and Shield

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:07 pm

Heh - in tabletop, there is (or was) an improved shield bash feat that knocked an opponent back 5 feet.

Great when combined with a monkey-gripped reach weapon.

Bash enemy back 5 feet, stab a couple of times, take own 5 foot step back. Enemy must now move to reach you, drawing an attack of opportunity and (even better) being denied a full attack option.

/wish we had shield bashes in NWN2, even without that feat

JaydeMoon · Post by **JaydeMoon** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:11 pm

OMG WUT A PGer! Somebody ban him before he destroys ALFA!!!

Avaz · Post by **Avaz** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:23 pm

I just came up with a justifiable character concept for using a monkey gripped greatsword with a tower shield.

But I won't spoil it because I want to play this megagimped PC fo' mahself!

Zelknolf · Post by **Zelknolf** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:45 am

Avaz wrote:I just came up with a justifiable character concept for using a monkey gripped greatsword with a tower shield.

But I won't spoil it because I want to play this megagimped PC fo' mahself!

So I said to myself "Man, Cloud from FFVII is so badassed, but I want AC!"

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:02 am

JaydeMoon wrote:OMG WUT A PGer! Somebody ban him before he destroys ALFA!!!

Heh, if you think that is bad you should see my build for a warlock that gets no AoOs from casting and gets a +2 bonus to ac in any round that he casts a spell...

Dorn · Post by **Dorn** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:56 am

shield and spear.
i wanted this a while ago to make my ftr/sleric of sparta...i mean tempus

Vendrin · Post by **Vendrin** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:19 am

well screw you dorn. make a banite,.

Kalbron · Post by **Kalbron** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:22 am

Avaz wrote:But I won't spoil it because I want to play this megagimped PC fo' mahself!

Tower shields don't actually take away AB from melee combat, so it's not as gimped as you'd think!

Strangely they do take away AB from touch attacks...

Amar · Post by **Amar** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:55 pm

Kalbron wrote:
Avaz wrote:But I won't spoil it because I want to play this megagimped PC fo' mahself!
Tower shields don't actually take away AB from melee combat, so it's not as gimped as you'd think!

Strangely they do take away AB from touch attacks...

Yes they do Kalbron. -2 AB. My PC uses one.

Mulu · Post by **Mulu** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:58 pm

Not that I'm going that route, but is that -2 AB for a tower shield on top of the -2 from Monkeygrip, for a -4 overall?

Avaz · Post by **Avaz** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:35 pm

Mulu wrote:Not that I'm going that route, but is that -2 AB for a tower shield on top of the -2 from Monkeygrip, for a -4 overall?

I believe you are correct.

hollyfant · Post by **hollyfant** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:29 pm

There's currently a bug with that combo. While the character sheet shows a -4 penalty, it's actually -2 in combat. Since that cannot be helped, it shouldn't count as an exploit though.

I'm sure Obsidian will fix it. Eventually.

Kalbron · Post by **Kalbron** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:54 pm

AmarSldstill wrote:Yes they do Kalbron. -2 AB. My PC uses one.

What the character sheet says, and what actually occurs, are often wildly different. For instance, my PC when wielding a bow says he should deal 1d8+3 damage. Except that +3 comes from OEI's engine reporting that I have a +2 STR bonus and that my character is wielding a weapon two handed.

It's the same with a Tower Shield. The character sheet says -2. Your attack rolls will not show this. If you use touch attacks though it will show that. Strange bug, isn't it?

Amar · Post by **Amar** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:30 am

Yes they do kalbron.

I am a level 2 fighter with +3 strength mod and weapon focus = +6 Atk.
I equipp a tower shield and i have +4 attack in the combat logs

Kalbron · Post by **Kalbron** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:10 am

Well then one of the ALFA coders must have gone through and altered that because on no other server I've played on for 1.12 has that been the case.