Planetouched DM vote result

[Swift]

Re: Inaub's Challenge

I'll start with:

Most encounters will, at the outset, focus on the planetouched PCs 'alien' look. As an immersive DM, I refuse to just let the PCs slide through without realistic reactions from the NPCs.

RPing several minutes or more of reactions to planetouched is going to slow my plots down, the other PCs gotta go through the same spiel again and again.

I know how folks are gonna react to elves, I don't know how they are gonna react to planetouched humans. I have to put more thought and effort into mostly inconsequential interactions (inconsequential for my plot, great for the singular planetouched PC) that don't forward my overall plotline.

Now this example only touches on the Live DMing aspect of it. Builders never had to worry about scripting different conversation scripts for Drow because they were KOS for a long time, as they are on most servers. But planetouched may not be KOS, but will certainly elicit different responses from innkeepers and storeowners. Sure we could just toss that for simplicity... but then we're cheating those planetouched players we so much want to accomodate.

Everyone keeps comparing Drow and Genasi, but it's apples and oranges. #1 Drow had a dedicated server. #2 On non-dedicated servers, they had a real hard time surviving or they cloaked themselves in secrecy.

Planetouched won't have a dedicated server. Planetouched are not reviled to the point they need to shroud themselves in secrecy, but are different enough they'll garner a different reaction than an elf or a dwarf would. Different plane-touched would elicit different responses.

Also, Inaub, your statement correcting Rick only further proves his point: that he just doesn't know enough about planetouched to properly incorporate them into his DMing.

The funny thing being, if a drow makes it to the surface and isn't killed before falling in with a part of adventurers, we force DMs to play out the NPC reactions to them, but when it comes to planetouched, its just all too hard and too much effort.

Or the DM just flat out refuses to DM that player, which is all cool.

Why couldn't the exact same rules apply to planetouched? Why are they that 1 step too far?

[witch]

Dm's often enough dm only people who

- fit in their campaign
- they like
- are in faction x
etc etc

plenty of times that happens.

being a drow or dworf or genasi doesnt change a rats ass about that.. *shrugs*

find a dm you like and likes you.. if he doenst mind a genasi and likes it all the better.. takes some getting to know people aye and planning

[JaydeMoon]

You're absolutely right of course. DMs could just do as they have always done for drow. I mean, the DMs already have to 'put up' with one set of problem races, they should have no problem putting up with several more sets of problem races. Right?



Just because folks have shown that they are willing to deal with the one, you expect to force on them the other?

I mean, maybe DM Snuffy has a limit? "I'll deal with the different races that compound my workload, but damned if I'll work with three of them!"

I dunno. Sometime I have to put up with things I'm not overly happy about in order to get what I want elsewhere. And sometimes, the line gets crossed and that's the end of that.

Perhaps there are some parallels here?

NOTE: Terminology above was used for debate purposes only, no one in this post thinks ANY of the races are 'problem' races, merely being mindful of the opinions of others.

[danielmn]

I hate planetouched.

I hate those who like planetouched

I hate those who don't like planetouched.

I hate you all.

Choke on genasi!!! (and artichokes!!!)

Thanks to the Admin for being transparent about the decision, and letting the dm's be heard. It is comforting to know that the admins in charge do show the rest of the community what is happening, instead of a Stalinesk approach. I for one do appreciate it, and I know full well how difficult it can be to have transparent decisions, especially those that will cause a diatribe of seven pages full of what sounds to me sixth graders whinning at each other, interspersed with actual intelligent conversation (though when you take away the sophisticated logic and fancy words, is still sixth graders bickering at each other)

Thanks for the decision!

Daniel

[Rotku]

Daniel makes a good point. I really haven't seen many new arguments at all presented in this thread - just a repeat of stuff that we heard ten times (from both sides) in the last thread a few weeks ago. So unless you've got a new enlightened argument to contribute, let's call it a day, shall we, and wrap this thread up?

If anyone does have anything new and unique to contribute, feel free to start up a new thread of PM me and I'll reopen this one

[JaydeMoon]

!!

We'll wrap this thread up when you LOCK IT, joo board nazi!!!