The devil is in the detail. Great concept, should have happened months ago, but who goes? By rights it should be the servers with the least logged dm/players over the last 3 months from now. Also if the players and dm's from those removed servers leave and don't bolster the ranks elsewhere then there is no point.
Can we parse the logs for activity and see where the peeps really are? Would be interesting to say the least.
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I see this as pointless this far into the game.
Unless DM's are garunteed to go to other servers, with the players, there is no point to it.
ALFA NWN2 is right around the corner. (kinda) To divert time and effort away from it for this is useless.
Btw, I am still not convinced that rewriting NWN2 to be a suitable and viable engine for ALFA is worth the effort, but then I'm not a code monkey trying not to do it. On the surface it seems like far too less gain for way too much pain. Pretty graphics will not /save/ ALFA.
People have been leaving ALFA because of all the OC BS, not because the engine is old and ugly. And with all the updates NWN has gotten over the years, it's not too ugly imo.
If your going to go for NWN2 then divert all your resourses to it now. Don't waste time, cutting servers, pissing off existing members, or wasting resources.
If NWN2 turns out to be impracticle, fine. Make a decision quickly to that effect. Start rebuilding ALFA with NWN1, with standards in place from the start. Updated base mods incorporating everything that is available from the start. Redo the haks from scratch. Make it right, do a relaunch and lets get back to playing in the best damn PW out there.
Unless DM's are garunteed to go to other servers, with the players, there is no point to it.
ALFA NWN2 is right around the corner. (kinda) To divert time and effort away from it for this is useless.
Btw, I am still not convinced that rewriting NWN2 to be a suitable and viable engine for ALFA is worth the effort, but then I'm not a code monkey trying not to do it. On the surface it seems like far too less gain for way too much pain. Pretty graphics will not /save/ ALFA.
People have been leaving ALFA because of all the OC BS, not because the engine is old and ugly. And with all the updates NWN has gotten over the years, it's not too ugly imo.
If your going to go for NWN2 then divert all your resourses to it now. Don't waste time, cutting servers, pissing off existing members, or wasting resources.
If NWN2 turns out to be impracticle, fine. Make a decision quickly to that effect. Start rebuilding ALFA with NWN1, with standards in place from the start. Updated base mods incorporating everything that is available from the start. Redo the haks from scratch. Make it right, do a relaunch and lets get back to playing in the best damn PW out there.
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"Tough shit - Deal with it."
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"Tough shit - Deal with it."
Common sense just isn't all that common anymore.
Yeah, I'd go along with what bizmiz is sayin here... I don't think NWN2 is going to be worth the trouble, personally... and I wouldn't mind waiting to find out before making this move, again personally.
I just think something needs to be done, if we decide to stay with NWN1. By that, I mean the structure of our servers and yadda yadda.
I don't mind waiting though... *shrugs*
//my last bit on it
I just think something needs to be done, if we decide to stay with NWN1. By that, I mean the structure of our servers and yadda yadda.
I don't mind waiting though... *shrugs*
//my last bit on it
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The poll, as written, is vague which side the former falls on.Rotku wrote:Voluntary downsizing I agree with. Forced downsizing at this stage? Silly.
Anyhoo - I hope Admin doesn't have the hubris to take down mods over the objections of their DMs and Players. This means that any such 'downsizing' that we do - even at the request of Admin or yet another comittee - would be voluntary.
Perhaps a better question would be: If we had sufficient DM coverage and static content to let you play 24/7, what Live servers would you play on? If 90% of our members list 3 servers only, that's a lot better info than 48% stating that 'downsizing' should happen. Bear in mind, that's 48% of the 25% that voted (assuming 150 active players).
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Ronan's system will require hak updates, but BG will be heading in that direction soon.Inaubryn wrote:I'd say Ronan's campaign server idea is the best of the bunch. It leaves all current servers in place and simply designates those infrequented as "campaign servers". This means that any PCs may play there that are already there, but new PCs couldn't be created/validated there w/o a DM. And PCs who need to cross the server would be given the option of walkin' or jumpin' to the next closest server. That seems plausible and viable to me. But, what do I know?
Link to campaign server idea? (Yes, I am too lazy to look for it)
How does it work in terms of players travelling between servers? Would it be considered acceptable to server hop between these servers and your home server for DMed events? The name would indicate that's what their purpose would be, but a lot of people object to that kind of behaviour. If not, then what's the point of them?
How does it work in terms of players travelling between servers? Would it be considered acceptable to server hop between these servers and your home server for DMed events? The name would indicate that's what their purpose would be, but a lot of people object to that kind of behaviour. If not, then what's the point of them?
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NWN1: Soppi Widenbottle, High Priestess of Yondalla.
NWN2: Gruuhilda, Tree Hugging Half-Orc
NWN1: Soppi Widenbottle, High Priestess of Yondalla.
NWN2: Gruuhilda, Tree Hugging Half-Orc
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NickD wrote:Link to campaign server idea? (Yes, I am too lazy to look for it)
Just like ze man says.Inaubryn wrote:It leaves all current servers in place and simply designates those infrequented as "campaign servers". This means that any PCs may play there that are already there, but new PCs couldn't be created/validated there w/o a DM. And PCs who need to cross the server would be given the option of walkin' or jumpin' to the next closest server.
Yeah, OK. So in answer to my questions? Would it make server hopping back and forth for DMed events acceptable?Spider Jones wrote:NickD wrote:Link to campaign server idea? (Yes, I am too lazy to look for it)Just like ze man says.Inaubryn wrote:It leaves all current servers in place and simply designates those infrequented as "campaign servers". This means that any PCs may play there that are already there, but new PCs couldn't be created/validated there w/o a DM. And PCs who need to cross the server would be given the option of walkin' or jumpin' to the next closest server.
Current PCs:
NWN1: Soppi Widenbottle, High Priestess of Yondalla.
NWN2: Gruuhilda, Tree Hugging Half-Orc
NWN1: Soppi Widenbottle, High Priestess of Yondalla.
NWN2: Gruuhilda, Tree Hugging Half-Orc