NWN2 BG Statics

[ayergo]

stat penalty, not temporary (unless you get rid of the item).

[ayergo]

Moved to BG forum so everyone can see how it all works.

[Ithildur]

Sounds like some hard work went into interesting and creative new options for PCs (and for players that enjoy seeing something other than patrol statics ). Look forward to seeing some of it in action sometime in the future.

Kudos

[ayergo]

Holy cow, Ithildur! Great to see you here and hope to find you in game soon.

[Ithildur]

I owe a few guys in TSM an initial visit first, but knowing alfa death rates/attrition I'll probably finding myself in BG sooner than later one way or another

[johnlewismcleod]

I cannot seem to do any of the statics with Survival = 2, Heal = 2, Spellcraft = 5. I've been told that bonus points to skills don't figure in for checks (in which case these would be 0,0,3 ), if this is the case, why?

It's a bit frustrating for me in that I'm playing a skill based PC and these three skills just happen to be three I haven't alotted anything to, and it seems a bit meta to pile points in on next lvl just to take advantage of server specific statics. Any chance some of the other skills will be included in the future?

[ayergo]

I cannot seem to do any of the statics with Survival = 2, Heal = 2, Spellcraft = 5. I've been told that bonus points to skills don't figure in for checks (in which case these would be 0,0,3 ), if this is the case, why?

Because i want you to actually spend some points in it. You should have enough spellcraft for some of the minor spell components if you look in the right place.

It's a bit frustrating for me in that I'm playing a skill based PC and these three skills just happen to be three I haven't alotted anything to, and it seems a bit meta to pile points in on next lvl just to take advantage of server specific statics. Any chance some of the other skills will be included in the future?

I have most of the skills accounted for already, including lock picking, traps, and secret doors (multiple). I'm always open to submissions of of more if folks wish to do it.

[johnlewismcleod]

Because i want you to actually spend some points in it. You should have enough spellcraft for some of the minor spell components if you look in the right place.

These are points given by the bard feat Competence acquired at dear cost at L2, and to dismiss them as "free points that shouldn't count" is frankly, well....ouch!

I have most of the skills accounted for already, including lock picking, traps, and secret doors (multiple). I'm always open to submissions of of more if folks wish to do it.

If I'm mistaken, don't take offense, as exploring alone is nearly suicidal for a rogue/bard, but I think these are in a location that cannot resonably be accessed alone and aren't really suitable for passing time as statics.

Possible skills that could one day be included for use on persistent, accessable statics:

Appraise, Craft etc., Concentration, Diplomacy, Listen, Lore, Perform, Slight of Hand, Spot, Use Magic Devise.

Don't misunderstand and construe this as an attack on the wonderful server that is BG...it's incredible.

And I understand the work that goes into making statics and the thought that must be put in to prevent them from being exploits, but from my narrow, single PC perspective rogues and bards are extremely bored when alone online. What is available is really unaccessable unless partied, and then doesn't give XP and the profits are neglegible due to party divide.

[DMyles]

If I'm mistaken, don't take offense, as exploring alone is nearly suicidal for a rogue/bard, but I think these are in a location that cannot resonably be accessed alone and aren't really suitable for passing time as statics.

And I understand the work that goes into making statics and the thought that must be put in to prevent them from being exploits, but from my narrow, single PC perspective rogues and bards are extremely bored when alone online. What is available is really unaccessable unless partied, and then doesn't give XP and the profits are neglegible due to party divide.

As far as the activity being to dangerous to pursue alone that pretty much goes for everyone. My PC can't just go around picking herbs because there are to many baddies in the woods. I might be able to if I was real high lvl but going alone is still a very dangerous activity. Since I have been on the server I have picked like 4 herbs. One while out exploring with Rugo and three more on a dm adventure where I picked up a few on the way. The first vanished from my inventory when i went to bg and the other three i turned in for somthing like 20-30 gp and 20-30 xp total. Honestly I doubt many pcs are using them much just because people rarely seem to form parties and go out without a dm around.

[ayergo]

Because i want you to actually spend some points in it. You should have enough spellcraft for some of the minor spell components if you look in the right place.

These are points given by the bard feat Competence acquired at dear cost at L2, and to dismiss them as "free points that shouldn't count" is frankly, well....ouch!

Oh they count, but we're talking about some very specific lore of local useful plants or spell components. This isn't knowledge that you just sorta know. Spend some points.

I have most of the skills accounted for already, including lock picking, traps, and secret doors (multiple). I'm always open to submissions of of more if folks wish to do it.

If I'm mistaken, don't take offense, as exploring alone is nearly suicidal for a rogue/bard, but I think these are in a location that cannot resonably be accessed alone and aren't really suitable for passing time as statics.

So don't go alone. Time to RP that charisma and find some friends to travel with.

Possible skills that could one day be included for use on persistent, accessable statics:

Appraise, Craft etc., Concentration, Diplomacy, Listen, Lore, Perform, Slight of Hand, Spot, Use Magic Devise.

Appraise - i'm open to ideas.

craft - banned, sorry. I think it'd be fun too.

concentration - combat skill that already gets love

Diplomacy - already in.

Listen - already useful

Lore - open to ideas

Perform - already in.

Slight of hand - already useful and quite profitable

Spot -already in

UMD - already in

And there are places that a group of 1 or 2 low level folks can reasonably go to do statics. Grab a buddy and give whats there a go. Many things folks haven't even found in game yet.

[johnlewismcleod]

Ideally statics could be done solo to fill time when other players aren't on, and the herb statics can.

Also the herb statics give reward to the PC doing them, while the rogue/bard things I've seen can't be done without a party and/or don't give reward.

But admittedly there is much more server to explore than what mine has seen so far, so pardon me if I post in ignorance and I'll quit while I'm behind here

[Kest]

Craft is banned? I just assumed no one had made anything for it yet - you don't necessarily need to craft something to make use of the skill.

One of the statics I had an idea for was an Apprentice Smith type deal. You repair armour/weapons and deliver stock for your master, but don't end up with any of the goods - they're not yours.

[Curmudgeon]

Pardon me for butting in on a BG thread.

Crafting is not banned, nor are Skill points spent in Craft Weapon or Craft Armor to be considered throwaways. We have several active crafters on TSM. All crafting is done with DM assistance.

However, since NWN - style traps are not allowed, Craft Traps has not yet had any applicable in-game use that I'm aware of, although I can imagine cases in which it might be usable with DM assistance. I have also allowed players upon request and with DM consent to use Craft Traps as a placeholder for skill points to be used towards RP skills which we have not yet implemented, or for Speak Language, which is usable.

[HEEGZ]

Craft is banned? I just assumed no one had made anything for it yet - you don't necessarily need to craft something to make use of the skill.

One of the statics I had an idea for was an Apprentice Smith type deal. You repair armour/weapons and deliver stock for your master, but don't end up with any of the goods - they're not yours.

I am totally willing to run the DM side of crafting if anyone has a PC who is interested in this. I will also bring RP gear onto the server via my DM toon if anyone has specific things they'd like as well. I think Ayergo was referring to something else perhaps, but I'm not exactly sure what it is.

[Magile]

I am totally willing to run the DM side of crafting if anyone has a PC who is interested in this. I will also bring RP gear onto the server via my DM toon if anyone has specific things they'd like as well. I think Ayergo was referring to something else perhaps, but I'm not exactly sure what it is.

SHOES!