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Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:36 pm
by klandearlas
Wow....dead again but had some nasty lag and suddenly dropped out and was dead :) I guess my guy is very dead but any chance of a dm favor or somesuch? I was getting invested...can die but due to a pc glitch?

Was on full hp and fighting a kobold on 18 hp...i was on 18 hp otherwise a very tough kobold

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:11 pm
by Rumple C
Dont look at me, i am just a Provisional DM.

For the record of any (real) DMs who look into this the PC is Iymbryl.

Time of death aprox 2012-07-29 14:17:15.

(and next time dont solo K - it'll be the death of you).

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:16 pm
by Riotnrrd
You'll probably want to ask the head dungeon master (HDM) of the server you play on. Generally technical ressurections (tech rezzes) of this nature are DM discretion and as far as I know, are fairly rare.

On a personal note, I do not recommend hunting creatures alone. Adventuring alone is easily the #1 reason people die in ALFA.

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:28 pm
by klandearlas
I can understand the not exploring along thing but i was owning until i dropped out and was dead....i had noticed all day little things like my bow and sword not swapping for 30 seconds or not moving anywhere a number of times or my animal companion wolf not doing much of anything so maybe i should have simply logged off and given it the day but alfa got the best of me :) I had the last kobold to almost dead and i was on full hp of 18 and suddenly...lagg...dropped out and was dead..techy yeah?

Sheesh..what a way to go...death by computer and not kobold :) sounds wrong in so many ways..death by kobold mainly

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:32 pm
by Rumple C
You wont be the first to die to pushing the limits K, and you certainly wont be the last.

Just remember (particuarly when soloing!) that you are only ever one crit hit away from being in a deeeeep trouble. And that nat 20 will happen 5% of the time.

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:45 pm
by klandearlas
Hehe true c but the option of survival is cut short when the server or my own pc is having a moment and I can't run away or swing a sword or do much of anything! just bummed out. Iym was cool
demand statue! :) and would love
A techy raise but can well understand the formalities I

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:05 pm
by Riotnrrd
Kobolds have claimed many adventurers *grins*

*queues 'Another One BItes the Dust'*

Game on, good sir, and you should try a 6 HP wizard some time ;)

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:52 pm
by Zelknolf
The judgment for such things rests quite squarely on the HDMs. We do keep reasonably-precise logs around deaths, though we don't typically provide tech rezzes for things we can't verify (plug pullers would rule ALFA if "oh dang, I disconnected" got a player his or her character back-- as "oh dang, I disconnected" looks a whole lot like "I panicked and logged out"-- and we pretty routinely call rubberbanding on a walkmesh a legitimate death simply by lack of verifiability). HDMs can say 'nuts to that, you live' regardless, though I wouldn't bet the farm on that if all you have for tangible proof is what logs we've taken automatically.

Another value of bringing friends there-- they can take screenshots of their combat logs to demonstrate your abruptly-inactive (probably disconnected) character. Also a value of a DM, who can see you suddenly ceasing to do stuff and pause/correct.

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:04 pm
by CloudDancing
As a DM my attituide "Everybody gets one" tech rez (if they ask), after that I have to ask if they are pulling old Dm Clouds leg.

Anyways it depends on the server IF the HDM trusts his or her or hir dms to make their own calls on tech rezzes. Two out of one servers at this point requires us DMs to report tech rezzes but do not need express HDM approval. And it is up to the HDM to decide how their servers and dms run.

Don't get discouraged. Advocate for yourself, but remember there are limited amounts of patience in each DM.

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:15 pm
by Regas
Hi Kland,

Please draft a short pm outlining what happened and when ( can just copy what you wrote here) and send it to Crum and swift. Do not roll a new toon if you want to try and argue foe a tech Rez. Once you have a new pc no going back. No promises but we will try and get you s speedy answer.

Regas

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:51 pm
by Mick
Riotnrrd wrote: Game on, good sir, and you should try a 6 HP wizard some time ;)
You are such a PGer.

I'll see your 6 hp wizard and raise you a 5 hp sorceress...with an ECL of +1.

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:04 pm
by FoamBats4All
Mick wrote:
Riotnrrd wrote: Game on, good sir, and you should try a 6 HP wizard some time ;)
You are such a PGer.

I'll see your 6 hp wizard and raise you a 5 hp sorceress...with an ECL of +1.
You two should be given strikes for such blatant powergaming.

10 con or go home.

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:18 pm
by Blindhamsterman
FoamBats4All wrote:
Mick wrote:
Riotnrrd wrote: Game on, good sir, and you should try a 6 HP wizard some time ;)
You are such a PGer.

I'll see your 6 hp wizard and raise you a 5 hp sorceress...with an ECL of +1.
You two should be given strikes for such blatant powergaming.

10 con or go home.
+1

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:25 pm
by klandearlas
Thanks regas. PMs sent to the above.

Re: Is dead due to lag a thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:42 pm
by danielmn
FoamBats4All wrote:
Mick wrote:
Riotnrrd wrote: Game on, good sir, and you should try a 6 HP wizard some time ;)
You are such a PGer.

I'll see your 6 hp wizard and raise you a 5 hp sorceress...with an ECL of +1.
You two should be given strikes for such blatant powergaming.

10 con or go home.
10 Con, 8 Str or walk.