
It isn't a huge problem yet, and lots of people are being inclusive, but the trend is clear and it was a HUGE problem in NWN1 so I'm making this suggestion early.
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So far in ALFA2 I've seen the opposite. When a PC (Shard) died, he rerolled shortly thereafter and everyone seem uninterested in the new PC. This may have partly been because the mourning of the current PC was still going on (he attend his own funeral as another PC), but it was certainly clear that little of the PCs had any interest in the new concept.MorbidKate wrote:I've seen it as well though it is funny to watch groups ignore newcomers unless one of them had died and re-rolled back to Level 1
This is really dependent on the situation/PC. For some PCs, they really don't see others being worth a damn outside of a select few (lord knows mine feels that way, and the list is growing shorter with every action everyone else begins to take). I remember a case was with TVS back in vanilla ALFA way back, where the people on the server didn't care much for/did not grow attached to new PCs, because 9/10 times said PC would be dead in a matter of days. As of right now, I don't see many doing the "exclusive" attitude outside of those who did it right from the beginning.Mulu wrote:It isn't a huge problem yet, and lots of people are being inclusive, but the trend is clear and it was a HUGE problem in NWN1 so I'm making this suggestion early.
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Surprisingly, the Banites are willing to talk to anyone (probably because they wish to convert them). It's the rumours that they're out to murder everyone that makes the new PCs avoid them, haha.Dorn wrote:I blame the banites
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In our defense, the new concept was insane.Magile wrote:So far in ALFA2 I've seen the opposite. When a PC (Shard) died, he rerolled shortly thereafter and everyone seem uninterested in the new PC. This may have partly been because the mourning of the current PC was still going on (he attend his own funeral as another PC), but it was certainly clear that little of the PCs had any interest in the new concept.
Right, but if a lot of people do this it kills the game, and they *don't* do this until they themselves have at least a level or two under their belts, so it's technically meta being level based behavior.Magile wrote:For some PCs, they really don't see others being worth a damn outside of a select few
I've seen this too, but there may be a feedback loop involved, where they originally got snubbed and then just said to themselves "screw it" and went off to do their own thing.Magile wrote:I guess that's just what I've seen. I often see new PCs ignoring other players and going off to solo statics rather than request help.
If a player doesn't want to rp with you it doesn't really matter what you roll up. I don't think anyone is really complaining about it yet but the concern is out there that it could happen all over again. Nothing wrong with being mindful and I've gotten my share of Tells IG that it's still a valid concern.Avaz wrote:Or you can play an outwardly social and friendly character, too, so it'd be in character to talk to new people.
I think the njubs are nowhere near expecting that so many of the statics require combat and a party of friends so they die quickly going out alone. Maybe have the Marshall stress the need for grouping a bit more perhaps? The njubs that die quickly usually start to RP for help after that. A lot of the solo artists I've seen this week are older players who've died elsewhere and now know what they can and can't kill around Rivermoot without backup.Mikayla wrote:And about half don't even really stop because they are off on to a static. I am constantly telling people IC "Don't go out alone" but few seem to listen. I have not seen "old timers" (like 2 1/2 weeks is old) ignoring Newbs, but more the other way around. But maybe that is just me.
This is exactly what I am talking about. You absolutely should introduce yourself to a new PC drinking alone, that's called "playing the game of D&D" and as the experienced member the burden is appropriately placed on you, not the nervous newbie.Swift wrote:Effort needs to be made from both sides. Sheldan isn't going to divert himself from his studies to walk across the tavern and introduce himself to a PC drinking alone just because they are new to ALFA.