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Stacking: Mage armor and regular armor

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 3:56 pm
by Riotnrrd
I understand mage armor and regular armor stacks (never tried it in game).

NWN1 had non-stacking fixes. Is NWN2 running the same antistacking code, if not, can we test / add it?

Re: Stacking: Mage armor and regular armor

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:31 pm
by Blindhamsterman
it still stacked up until the latest hak updated, where I *think* AL added in Zelknolfs fix for this.

p.s. I believe it DOES now stack with +1 enchantments etc

Re: Stacking: Mage armor and regular armor

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:04 pm
by AcadiusLost
the Mage Armor fix didn't make it into last hak update. Ought to be able to get it in with the next one though, which shouldn't be too far off, since we've got a growing list of things to roll in with it.

Re: Stacking: Mage armor and regular armor

Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:35 pm
by Zelknolf
NWN1 had very buggy non-stacking fixes. BHM and I have tested an actual fix, that complies with PnP rules; no reason for it to not go into the next hak update. If something horrible happens to me before I get myself set up properly on Github, it's on the techFTP.

Re: Stacking: Mage armor and regular armor

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:08 pm
by paazin
Riotnrrd wrote:I understand mage armor and regular armor stacks (never tried it in game).

NWN1 had non-stacking fixes. Is NWN2 running the same antistacking code, if not, can we test / add it?
This means if you put on padded cloth and then cast mage armour, it's +4 AC total, correct?

Re: Stacking: Mage armor and regular armor

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:21 pm
by SwordSaintMusashi
BHM was working on that. Not sure if it was ever completed.

Re: Stacking: Mage armor and regular armor

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:26 pm
by Riotnrrd
paazin wrote:This means if you put on padded cloth and then cast mage armour, it's +4 AC total, correct?
Today mage's armor adds +4 to your armor class, regardless of what you're wearing. So a sorcerer in studded leather (+3) who casts mage armor (+4) would have a total of +7 to armor class. Or a fighter wizard who casts mage armor, then puts on full plate, would have +12 to AC.

Re: Stacking: Mage armor and regular armor

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:21 pm
by Blindhamsterman
SwordSaintMusashi wrote:BHM was working on that. Not sure if it was ever completed.
Nope, Zelknolf made it, and it worked, tested it quite a bit back in November and didn't get any issue.s

Re: Stacking: Mage armor and regular armor

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:08 am
by Zelknolf
That is now twice that you've made the exact same mistake, SSM. Shame on you.

The fix applies an armor enhancement bonus that corrects itself on a slow heartbeat in order to make itself behave as an armor bonus, instead of an armor enhancement bonus. So to answer your question, Paazin: yes, like that. Mundane padded + mage armor = 4 AC (4 armor + 1 armor = 4 armor = 4 total AC). Padded armor +1 + mage armor = 5 AC (4 armor + 1 armor + 1 armor enhancement = 4 armor + 1 armor enhancement = 5 total AC). It's written; it's tested; the only person who objected to its implementation was actually casting mage armor, putting on full plate, and insisting that it wasn't any kind of exploitative behavior. Nothing more to do but wait for the next hak update.