Changing the -6 Safety Net

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Re: Changing the -6 Safety Net

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I also hate being able to see HP totals to the point of where I try to avoid joining groups unless absolutely necessary.

I've lost track of the number of times people's RP has suddenly shifted around Rani when they realize she has 100+ hp.
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Exactly.

Now, the only other problem with all this is...

...too many 1st level PCs are rolled up, and act like they're level 20!
((but that's the other side of the coin i suppose))
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Galadorn wrote:don't even care if this does not fit here... but can we make it so we cannot know the exact hit points of even party members? Just perhaps a health bar... which would show a PC is half dead or near dead? Knowing the exact hit point total is huge OOC. And while it may be IC to know "almost how much healing" a hurt PC needs... using a CMW instead of a CLW could make the difference and seems more realistic. Oh how this post will be hammered hard eh? :)

Just maybe a health-progress-bar that also turns "Green" "Yellow" and "Red" and keep the floating cursor information when panning over a PC: "Barely Injured" (yellow), "Injured" (orange), "Near Death" (red). :P

This would also make it important to pay attention to descriptions more... which we should :), especially since descriptions are dynamic. As long as people bloody use it. I have never cringed moar then seeing a blank description! arrgh

But when first meeting a PC, and RPing then partying up, seeing 20 hps OR 120hps most times does make a difference how further RP can go (admitting it is entirely different ;) ). But if a description is detailed enough, it can give more "RP" indications of reactions... *shrugs*

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Galadorn wrote:Exactly.

Now, the only other problem with all this is...

...too many 1st level PCs are rolled up, and act like they're level 20!
((but that's the other side of the coin i suppose))

I don't see that as bad.

I've always thought that a leveled character by definition is somewhat special. I mean, 80-95% of the Forgotten Realms is probably commoners. A first level fighter from a small town might be the biggest badass around where he grew up. Heck, even first level warriors are a pretty big deal. RPing a tough guy at a low level always seemed fine to me... especially the moment when they realize they've entered a much bigger pond and are a much smaller fish then they thought.
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Xanthea wrote:I also hate being able to see HP totals to the point of where I try to avoid joining groups unless absolutely necessary.

I've lost track of the number of times people's RP has suddenly shifted around Rani when they realize she has 100+ hp.
And now they won't even need to party with you for that shift to happen since you told us all. :)
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Khazar Stoneblood wrote:
Galadorn wrote:Exactly.

Now, the only other problem with all this is...

...too many 1st level PCs are rolled up, and act like they're level 20!
((but that's the other side of the coin i suppose))

I don't see that as bad.

I've always thought that a leveled character by definition is somewhat special. I mean, 80-95% of the Forgotten Realms is probably commoners. A first level fighter from a small town might be the biggest badass around where he grew up. Heck, even first level warriors are a pretty big deal. RPing a tough guy at a low level always seemed fine to me... especially the moment when they realize they've entered a much bigger pond and are a much smaller fish then they thought.
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Khazar Stoneblood wrote:
Galadorn wrote:Exactly.
Now, the only other problem with all this is...
...too many 1st level PCs are rolled up, and act like they're level 20!
((but that's the other side of the coin i suppose))
I don't see that as bad.
I've always thought that a leveled character by definition is somewhat special. I mean, 80-95% of the Forgotten Realms is probably commoners. A first level fighter from a small town might be the biggest badass around where he grew up. Heck, even first level warriors are a pretty big deal. RPing a tough guy at a low level always seemed fine to me... especially the moment when they realize they've entered a much bigger pond and are a much smaller fish then they thought.
Makes sense to a certain extent and of course in a RP community everyone is different, and in fact acting tough, as it should be, might sometimes get you places you might not if the truth be known, which also fosters good RP... and even better RP when the "intimidated" actually takes that grain of salt and reacts "realistically" especially if the initimidated is way tougher and both parties know it.

I did not mean everytime, though, but sometimes, even more than sometimes, it does not seem right - and it depends on what is said IC each time, sure. ...but sometimes the level 1 even when openly proven to be not the big fish anymore still does not take that bite out of the humble pie they should. But again, it's always different, and it's all good. :)
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Looks like 10 page topic drift rule holds solid.
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not yet :P
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I thought the rule was that by page 10 a thread has drifted so far off topic as to have become irrelevant. It "only" took 9 here.
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yes.

But that's the point!

We can get 10!

TRY HARDER
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Galadorn wrote:yes.

But that's the point!

We can get 10!

TRY HARDER


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