Never Exceed 10 Pages in a P-Chest

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Never Exceed 10 Pages in a P-Chest

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Then did he raise on high the Persistent Chest, saying, "Bless this, O Database, that with it thou mayst store thine loot persistently, in thy chest." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou placest items into the Holy Chest. Then thou must count to ten. Ten shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be ten. Thou mayest also count to nine or any lesser number. Eleven shalt thou not count. Twelve is right out. Once the number ten, being the number of the counting, be reached, then closeth thou the Holy Persistent Chest in the direction downward, which, being full in my sight, shall retain no further loot."
Please for the love of all things holy, NEVER EVER EVER PUT MORE THAN 10 PAGES OF STUFF IN P-CHESTS. During the server reset SOMEONE ELSE'S STUFF WILL GET NUKED. Not yours. That would be far too easy. No, instead some good little billygoat who did not offend the Mighty Database by storing too much stuff in their chest will get their stuff wiped out.

I find this issue particularly vexing and have investigated potential solutions. None of them are good. We can limit the total number of items in a chest. That's no fun though, because you'd have to pick some arbitrarily small number of items because things are different sizes (and it would affect saving stuff for crafting). We could increase stackability of things to mitigate, but that would require an update to the hak files (which will happen eventually). We may be able to implement some insane other chest system, but that would require some heavy lifting by someone who wants to do that and understands how to set up a MySQL server at the least, and possibly linux and docker and other magical server-related tech stuff.

And on the other end of the spectrum lies to horror of the system used by Arelith, which limits you to something like 20 items TOTAL in a character's p-storage. They limit their system because p-storage causes lag and they have a lot of players. So there's an advantage to fewer players!

The good news! Beamdog is apparently working on a fix to the standard NWN database (which we use). But that will probably take until the end of the year.

What this means is that the most reasonable course of action is we try to muddle on as we do for the next few months until the fix rolls out *crossing fingers*. The best solution I have is to drop more p-chests into the mod as needed if you find yourself in need of over 10 pages of storage.

In fact, I prefer to keep chests at 9 pages or lower.
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I was unaware of this; thank you. I never get past 4 pages, but its good to know!
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Holy crap.

There are people with more than ten pages in a p. chest?
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So that means stop putting junk in the storage cabinets up stairs..
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An embarrassment of riches for the LTC.

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Rumple C wrote:An embarrassment of riches for the LTC.

Grown fat upon the largess of the dead whom have gone before.
They served their purpose.
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Seriously, maybe sell some shit sometimes.
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Akivaria wrote:Seriously, maybe sell some shit sometimes.
I heard they did and it is 10+ pages of tradebars
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Rumple C wrote:
Akivaria wrote:Seriously, maybe sell some shit sometimes.
I heard they did and it is 10+ pages of tradebars
The gold script is so stupid.
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Akivaria wrote:
Rumple C wrote:
Akivaria wrote:Seriously, maybe sell some shit sometimes.
I heard they did and it is 10+ pages of tradebars
The gold script is so stupid.

Agreed, and once I figure out how to edit the haks I'd like to get rid of it.

That being said though, most of the huge 10+ inventories are really potion/crafting components. They take up space quickly!
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T'is true, Ayergo.

T'is true.
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