Favorite D&D System?
Moderator: ALFA Administrators
-
- Githyanki
- Posts: 1289
- Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:00 pm
Favorite D&D System?
Companion poll to Legends of Aria/Shards Online Post-Alpha. Curious what system of D&D people prefer. It sounded like people want any ALFA3 to be 5e, but it'd be good to get actual statistics for that.
Terrible editions are excluded because... yeah.
Terrible editions are excluded because... yeah.
Re: Favorite D&D System?
I was speaking about combat systems with shad0wfax and FoamBats4All on voice. A big drawback from 5e is that it's very important on Encounter Abilities, Rituals, Advantage/Disadvantage and so on.
My suggestion, which made everyone pause and look at it in a different light, was turn-based combat. You step within a certain distance of hostility/a fight, you're brought into a turn-based system - similar to Divinity Original Sin, but ultimately allows for it to be scripted so that abilities per encounter, advantages and disadvantages could fire off properly and work. It would also allow for players to have a bit of time to think and, god help us if we pull it off, roleplay a bit in the middle of combat (something that is nearly impossible to do without a DM pausing every other second). This also allows a DM to plan out their fights as well, turning combat into a true PnP-feeling scenario, while also being legitimate PC gameplay.
I don't know if people would prefer that, but I know a lot of people would love to have that extra moment to think over their move, consider their actions, plan ahead of time and, well, not have to spastic worry about how the fight may possibly go and select the closest spell ASAP because combat is NOW and it's moving whether or not you want it to.
My suggestion, which made everyone pause and look at it in a different light, was turn-based combat. You step within a certain distance of hostility/a fight, you're brought into a turn-based system - similar to Divinity Original Sin, but ultimately allows for it to be scripted so that abilities per encounter, advantages and disadvantages could fire off properly and work. It would also allow for players to have a bit of time to think and, god help us if we pull it off, roleplay a bit in the middle of combat (something that is nearly impossible to do without a DM pausing every other second). This also allows a DM to plan out their fights as well, turning combat into a true PnP-feeling scenario, while also being legitimate PC gameplay.
I don't know if people would prefer that, but I know a lot of people would love to have that extra moment to think over their move, consider their actions, plan ahead of time and, well, not have to spastic worry about how the fight may possibly go and select the closest spell ASAP because combat is NOW and it's moving whether or not you want it to.
Part of ALFA since May 2000.
NWN 2 PC (BG): Layali Mae (Arcane Trickster)
NWN 2 PC (MS): Marius Lobhdain (Druid)
NWN 2 PC (BG): Layali Mae (Arcane Trickster)
NWN 2 PC (MS): Marius Lobhdain (Druid)
Curmudgeon in IRC wrote:(2:29:40 PM) Curmudgeon: The community wants 24/7 DM coverage, free xp, and a suit of mithral plate mail in every pchest.
Re: Favorite D&D System?
I'm excited to build and DM for 2e.
I'm far less excited for 5e.
I'm far less excited for 5e.
Re: Favorite D&D System?
I would probably bow out if we move to 2e as opposed to 5e I really don't think we need to take a Step BACK in time
Current NWN2 PC: TSM- Lessa
HDM of Moonshae Server DM on BG
Builder Everywhere
DM times - 6:30-10 PM Saturdays PDT on MS . . other times as I show up
PM me on Discord if you want to be DMd on BG I have Monday nights available
Talk to me if you want to learn to build for NWN2
Tech Admin
HDM of Moonshae Server DM on BG
Builder Everywhere
DM times - 6:30-10 PM Saturdays PDT on MS . . other times as I show up
PM me on Discord if you want to be DMd on BG I have Monday nights available
Talk to me if you want to learn to build for NWN2
Tech Admin
Re: Favorite D&D System?
That's funny to hear, given how many people have gone BACKWARD to NWN1...
-
- Githyanki
- Posts: 1289
- Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:00 pm
Re: Favorite D&D System?
2e is mostly there because I was surprised the support for it in voice. I don't see it realistically being an option going forward. That said, 2e and 3.5e are far easier to code than 5e. There's no rerolling, no roll-modifying mages, etc.Arianna wrote:I would probably bow out if we move to 2e as opposed to 5e I really don't think we need to take a Step BACK in time
- Ithildur
- Dungeon Master
- Posts: 3548
- Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:46 am
- Location: Best pizza town in the universe
- Contact:
Re: Favorite D&D System?
I've always thought that a hybrid/localized turn based system might work well for alfa Magile, interesting you bring that up. I love the tension build up, tactical possibilities, and the smack talking/emoting that can happen during intense, deadly round by round combat. Not everyone's cup of tea I'm sure.
Editions... I'd love to get in on a 2e tabletop game sometime but it's not going to work for alfa if we're trying to bring more people in. 5e probably is the way forward for new blood; 3.5e still can draw a good crowd as well (Pathfinder is extremely successful) but lately I'm sort of in favor of/curious about a simpler ruleset that encourages creative, flexible and narrative resolution of situations more than mechanics and rules to the nth degree; 5e ironically is more like 2e in spirit from what I've heard.
Editions... I'd love to get in on a 2e tabletop game sometime but it's not going to work for alfa if we're trying to bring more people in. 5e probably is the way forward for new blood; 3.5e still can draw a good crowd as well (Pathfinder is extremely successful) but lately I'm sort of in favor of/curious about a simpler ruleset that encourages creative, flexible and narrative resolution of situations more than mechanics and rules to the nth degree; 5e ironically is more like 2e in spirit from what I've heard.
Formerly: Aglaril Shaelara, Faerun's unlikeliest Bladesinger
Current main: Ky - something
It’s not the critic who counts...The credit belongs to the man who actually is in the arena, who strives violently, who errs and comes up short again and again...who if he wins, knows the triumph of high achievement, but who if he fails, fails while daring greatly.-T. Roosevelt
Current main: Ky - something
It’s not the critic who counts...The credit belongs to the man who actually is in the arena, who strives violently, who errs and comes up short again and again...who if he wins, knows the triumph of high achievement, but who if he fails, fails while daring greatly.-T. Roosevelt
Re: Favorite D&D System?
From a development standpoint, 2e and 3.5e allow us to remain true to the class abilities, skills, talents, feats, etc.
5e forces us to make many sacrifices in core abilities for character classes by replacing them with other "equivalents".
Logistically, 5e is much harder to develop for than 1e, 2e, 3e, 3.5e
5e forces us to make many sacrifices in core abilities for character classes by replacing them with other "equivalents".
Logistically, 5e is much harder to develop for than 1e, 2e, 3e, 3.5e
-
- Githyanki
- Posts: 1289
- Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:00 pm
Re: Favorite D&D System?
Updated poll to let you choose 2 options.
- Ithildur
- Dungeon Master
- Posts: 3548
- Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:46 am
- Location: Best pizza town in the universe
- Contact:
Re: Favorite D&D System?
Wow. 3 way tie...
In that case I voted for both 3.5 and 5e.FoamBats4All wrote:Updated poll to let you choose 2 options.
Formerly: Aglaril Shaelara, Faerun's unlikeliest Bladesinger
Current main: Ky - something
It’s not the critic who counts...The credit belongs to the man who actually is in the arena, who strives violently, who errs and comes up short again and again...who if he wins, knows the triumph of high achievement, but who if he fails, fails while daring greatly.-T. Roosevelt
Current main: Ky - something
It’s not the critic who counts...The credit belongs to the man who actually is in the arena, who strives violently, who errs and comes up short again and again...who if he wins, knows the triumph of high achievement, but who if he fails, fails while daring greatly.-T. Roosevelt
Re: Favorite D&D System?
pathfinder?
-
- Githyanki
- Posts: 1289
- Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:00 pm
Re: Favorite D&D System?
ALFA pillars explicitly say D&D. Though the community could change that, it'd be a more striking change.causk wrote:pathfinder?
- Ithildur
- Dungeon Master
- Posts: 3548
- Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:46 am
- Location: Best pizza town in the universe
- Contact:
Re: Favorite D&D System?
Pathfinder definitely is D&D foam, whatchutawkinabout? It's just not WOTC (which might be an improvement just for that alone)
Wouldn't mind PF either honestly; it's an improvement over 3.5e and probably a bit less work to convert if we're going by the book (combat manuevers vs grapple/trip/disarm/etc checks, PF is much more streamlined), but people (myself included) would need to familiarize themselves with a slightly different ruleset. Less of a shift than 5e obviously.
Wouldn't mind PF either honestly; it's an improvement over 3.5e and probably a bit less work to convert if we're going by the book (combat manuevers vs grapple/trip/disarm/etc checks, PF is much more streamlined), but people (myself included) would need to familiarize themselves with a slightly different ruleset. Less of a shift than 5e obviously.
Formerly: Aglaril Shaelara, Faerun's unlikeliest Bladesinger
Current main: Ky - something
It’s not the critic who counts...The credit belongs to the man who actually is in the arena, who strives violently, who errs and comes up short again and again...who if he wins, knows the triumph of high achievement, but who if he fails, fails while daring greatly.-T. Roosevelt
Current main: Ky - something
It’s not the critic who counts...The credit belongs to the man who actually is in the arena, who strives violently, who errs and comes up short again and again...who if he wins, knows the triumph of high achievement, but who if he fails, fails while daring greatly.-T. Roosevelt
-
- Valsharess of ALFA
- Posts: 3707
- Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:37 pm
- Location: Qu'ellar Faen Tlabbar, Noble Room 7, Menzoberranzan, NorthUnderdark
Re: Favorite D&D System?
I would prefer to move forward, not backward, but if 5e cannot be properly coded, then 3.5 is fine.
ALFA1-NWN1: Sheyreiza Valakahsa
NWN2: Layla (aka Aliyah, Amira, Snake and others) and Vellya
NWN1-WD: Shein'n Valakasha
NWN2: Layla (aka Aliyah, Amira, Snake and others) and Vellya
NWN1-WD: Shein'n Valakasha
-
- Githyanki
- Posts: 1289
- Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:00 pm
Re: Favorite D&D System?
Uh, shit. Well, I went to add Pathfinder and accidentally wiped out the previous votes. But hey, there's Pathfinder.