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Domain Names

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:14 pm
by FoamBats4All
So, .org just has not been reliable for us lately. We don't own it. Its owner isn't interested in giving it to us. And, the IA can't adjust it if needed.

So we have two other domains:
  • alandfaraway.info
  • alandfaraway.pw
Which do you prefer?

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:32 pm
by boombrakh
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Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:09 am
by maxcell
If we ever hope to bring people via seo (search engine optimisation), then .pw needs to be out (.pw is the country code top-level domain for Palau. It was originally delegated to the Pacific island nation of Palau in 1997.)

in search engines, in order of importance in results, .com is best, .org or .net are second, .info is third and the rest, well, at that point for seo purposes they just don't matter.

But if we are looking at a completely private domain, virtually invisible in search results, then either option is good.

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:44 am
by FoamBats4All
Good notes, but that's no longer true. Take, for instance, the .io domain. It's for the British Indian Ocean Territory. But how many sites for .io do you know that actually use that? Meanwhile, you see plenty of .io domains.

Similarly with .ly, .io, and .me. Millions have used bit.ly without having anything to do with Lybia.

Top level domains are not what they were a decade ago. If .io can now mean "input/output" and be a general domain used by internet startups, can't .pw mean something for us?

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:58 am
by boombrakh
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Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:30 am
by shad0wfax
.pw or .info

I like the idea of .pw for "persistent world" and it really doesn't matter what country it represents.

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:35 pm
by Ithildur
Info or something else; I don't think the term persistent world most accurately represents what ALFA is or does best.

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:28 pm
by Castano
.org seems to be redirecting to .info. So I think we stay as is?

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:34 pm
by FoamBats4All
Castano wrote:.org seems to be redirecting to .info. So I think we stay as is?
Sometimes.

The issue is that Murky has it set up so that .org has 2 IPs it redirects to. So it works. Randomly. Sometimes. Give it a couple of hours and it probably won't work for you.

And the dynamic DNS doesn't work. Try pinging bg.alandfaraway.org when your DNS is pointing to the second IP configured, and it won't work.

It's just too inconsistent and waiting weeks for Murky to respond is not good.

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:41 pm
by Heero
Anything is fine so long as you do the work to Google optimise it as well as go through the tedium of moving the site up the rankings once you switch.

Edit: Or maybe it doesnt matter in the least as ALFA doesnt come up at the top of any relevant searches that are anything other than 'A Land Far Away'. So just go on and switch it and carry on as is.

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:30 pm
by Rumple C
You're doing the wrong searches heero. We're top 10 for "Finder Wyvernspur", thanks to wiki.

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:15 am
by FoamBats4All
Rumple C wrote:You're doing the wrong searches heero. We're top 10 for "Finder Wyvernspur", thanks to wiki.
Wiki efforts have definitely increased SEO. Drupal sucks for that. The new website I'm working on next month should further those efforts.

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:08 am
by kid
Looks like we're good with either so just pick whichever.

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:50 pm
by Castano
Whatever URL we get, and I stress we here, the record owner should agree that it will be transferred to the next IA and so on down the chain. Probably should put this in the charter as well. Otherwise we're just resowing the seeds for the same problem we have now - people long gone who likely have busy lives where providing tech support to their old RP community is not too high on the priority list.

Re: Domain Names

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:06 pm
by FoamBats4All
Hialmar and I are willing to transfer things around (well, I am, just guessing based on working with Hialmar here). We've just had a couple of bad eggs when Zicada bought .org and sold it to Murky for $150.