Server Proposal: 000 Worldmap (Redux)

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Zelknolf wrote:If you have access to the BG builder forum, Boom, I would suggest the dynamic/ persistent content proposal there as recommended reading. It is much of what Ronan refers to (I believe) in his comment about instanced areas from the database, and its end state would at least significantly alter the shape of a server like this (but it would also offer significant support and resources to a server like this).
Sadly though, since I resigned as a BG "DM", I don't have access to it. But if anyone could send it to me in a PM i'd appreciate it. I'm open to all ideas that would make this as good a server as possible for the suggested purpose.
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PM Sent.

Boom's inbox need not me spammed any more. ... unless he's into that. Then I guess.... eeeeeeeeh... I don't want to know about it.
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This is a fabulous idea. As far as the "powers that be" I would point out that it actually promotes one of the core Pillars of ALFA:

The Pillars of ALFA

3) Faerunian Scope. ALFA's goal is to span Faerun.

A server like this approximates the ability to span all of Faerun without actually building all of Faerun, which as we know is prohibitive. How awesome would it be for DMs to have access to some of the most famous sites across Faerun in which to run their campaigns and events? A trip to Zhentil Keep! An expedition into Undermountain! The possibilities are endless. This would be extremely useful with respect to "generic areas" as well such as generic dungeons, temples, islands, castles etc. I would make builder contribution to this idea open to everyone. Have a favorite thing you want to build? Submit it to the "server team" and it may be included. I also would not reinvent the wheel. I bet a lot of the most famous areas in Faerun have already been built and posted for use on the Vault, and some of those could be "ALFAtized" and included as well, maybe with not so much effort. Same goes for generic prefabs.

As to the "no DMing where you play rule," since this server seems to be something intended to be used more in the context of specific events or campaigns -- i.e places to be visited rather than a "home server" where PCs reside -- I don't see any good reason why the rule should apply. Obviously, no DM in ALFA is going to insert themself as a player into an event or campaign they are running as a DM. If the DM runs an event in Undermountain, lets say, I don't see any reason why their PC could not then travel to Undermountain on a totally separate unrelated event.

Great idea Boom.
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I have changed me mind again. This does sound nice.
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boombrakh wrote:
Dorn wrote:I like it
:D

Will help if i can, somehow.

http://www.alandfaraway.org/forums/view ... 49#p513349

SUCH a good idea for giving us an 'edge' and also more dungeon opportunities, variable spawns, wandering monsters and all sorts of stuff that would allow people not seeing DMs to see smoe more stuff.
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Mentioned to Boom a while back that I really like the idea. Liked it back in NWN1 and I like it still now.

I'll bring it before the Admin, if they're not discussing it already.
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Rotku wrote:I'll bring it before the Admin, if they're not discussing it already.
This is great news. Seeing as it's a bureaucratic nightmare to be creative and enthusiastic around here, I'm very pleased to hear that. If there are any hoops needing jumping through, feel free to inform me.

Me and Dorn is typing up a more detailed plan of different stages for the server that we hope will give everyone a better overview over the process. I've already started building the first exterior area. Looks like there will be room enough to actually build an underdark map as well if that is something that the community wants.

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I like the idea behind this, looking forward to the more detailed plan. :D
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*is excited*
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I love the idea. If you need any help let me know.
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FWIW, I will most likely vote against any admin who does not support both this server and rules changes to allow its DMs to play on it (although I understand DMing may be more limited in this context).

So yeah, I likes it.
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Team Triple-Oh win (000):

boombrakh
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To say that I am the driving force behind this isn't quite true. There are so many people who are excited about this, that I feel that I should only be the representative at this point. For ALFA-beaurocracy purposes, i'll be the HDM of the 000-server.
At the moment, im heading up building the actual overland map. I will create the rough exterior overland areas and hopefully someone who is a better toolset artist will make it all purrty!

Dorn
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Dorn is composing the stages that we will present. We will not settle for anything but a fully visioned worldmap. We will not be creating only a "travel map" or an "adventure map" for neither in itself is something that would benefit the community.

Ronan
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Ronan has eagerly joined the triple-oh win team and will head up scripting what is needed to really make this server alive. Hopefully he'll convince other talented people who finds this proposal appealing to join us.

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Due to the amazing work she does for the already live servers and this community, Zelknolf only joins as a consultant who will add input and be there to help bouncing ideas. We are very glad she agreed to take what little time she has left to give us a hand.



We'd like a forum to start working on stuff so that I don't have to spam this thread with private messages sent to me that need addressing.
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Though ultimately, this is still just going to be a server that people log into when they are moving between servers they actually want to play on, correct?
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If the map represents a bunch of dungeons, it would be a destination.

Same with "town fragments"... stop in Waterdeep and it's (sake of argument) two screens jammed with merchants, couple statics that say "hey go carry this doo dad to Neverwinter" to go visit the fragment of Neverwinter or something.
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So...why not just build a region?

From the OP:
boombrakh wrote:seeing as this shouldn't be a server where people actually spend time playing on other than when they travel or during a DM event that started elsewhere.
This gets my full vote and support, but not more.

If DMs want a particular famous area to send a group through, they can create it and get it temporarily added to existing mods with the HDMs consent.
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